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NoDoubt
20-11-2005, 12:59 PM
I was kicked then banned i did not even do anything wrong. Would appreciate it if i was unbanned and you could tell me why i was even banned. Thanks in advance my steam id is 0:1:6074341

Olly
20-11-2005, 01:45 PM
tbh i just thought it was funny - then again u never came near me or killed me so i never saw u play :D

rapier
20-11-2005, 01:49 PM
:) you didnt do anything wrong? you want to rethink that

FraG-TurD
20-11-2005, 03:03 PM
Yes no doubt i would rethink your reply if i was you.
IF you klnow Fragmasters we only ban for good reson.
So come on tell us the truth ?

NoDoubt
20-11-2005, 03:08 PM
dont know wtf u on about i dont cheat but hay i must be good if i upset u guys and have u accusing me of cheating. Thanks for the compliments :D

IF you klnow Fragmasters we only ban for good reson.
You have obviously made a mistake this time so you have banned for the wrong reason.

FraG-TurD
20-11-2005, 03:10 PM
hahhaha u wish nub, Your crap even with hax i have seen u play.

NoDoubt
20-11-2005, 03:11 PM
hahhaha u wish nub, Your crap even with hax i have seen u play.

Haha it getting more and more funner yur raged i say raged boy :D
I dont hack i never have nor will i ever.

PS i must be crap if most of the server yesterday were sayin i should join FM?

dr stealth
20-11-2005, 03:14 PM
NoDoubt has gone into 'WAH!' mode, haha, petulant child.

NoDoubt
20-11-2005, 03:15 PM
i do not care what you guys think or say i know i don't cheat and thats good enough for me.

FraG-TurD
20-11-2005, 03:16 PM
Lol u talk more shit than the amount that comes out my ass.
And btw im not raged appeals is the best part of being a n admin you dumb shit, FUnniest part of my job.

And why the fuck would a random server say "join FM " u twat.

U was caught using WallHaxz and u fucking still couldnt kill people wioth that on.
I have a gfreat demoo of you on office blatantly lining up someone througha wall but u missed with 2 full clips.
What a fucking noob u are 2 clips and wallhax and u still get killed.....
Now go get some skill moron.

Oh and btw if u dont remember it was me u was calling a haxor the other day u fucking tard.
I love noobs they always make them self look even more stupid!

FraG-TurD
20-11-2005, 03:16 PM
i do not care what you guys think or say i know i don't cheat and thats good enough for me.
You are prob that fucking stupid you didnt realise seeing through walls was a cheat.

SubbY
20-11-2005, 03:17 PM
PS i must be crap if most of the server yesterday were sayin i should join FM?

FM ban list? :leb: :)

rapier
20-11-2005, 03:19 PM
he shall return for more abuse

FraG-TurD
20-11-2005, 03:20 PM
Hope so :)
I really do love this part.
Even more so with nubs like this :)

NoDoubt
20-11-2005, 03:21 PM
i was lining someone up thru the wall? WTF u on about did you take to much viagra be4 u went to bed??

Oh and all these lovely comments i dont cheat and i never have so stop accusing me and trying to make me admit to something i have not done.

Maybe you should ask most of your rgeulars i am sure they would tell you that i don't cheat.

NoDoubt
20-11-2005, 03:22 PM
omg your 25 you speak like a fuckin looser noob noob all these leet crap cut the bullshit i dont cheat if you like it or not. Now go learn what real skill is.

FraG-TurD
20-11-2005, 03:23 PM
see thats the problem u have no doubt they all agreed that u are haxing.
Its in the private section so you cant see it but trust me its was 100% that ur a cunt and u cheat.
We know u wont admit it nubs never do but we all know otherwise so fuck you!!!!
Looser muwhahahahahaha

FraG-TurD
20-11-2005, 03:23 PM
Now go learn what real skill is.

lmao classic line from a haxing boon!
I love it

NoDoubt
20-11-2005, 03:24 PM
hahaha ur 25 i think ur a raged up looser who lived on his pc 24/7 and lives off the dole.

SubbY
20-11-2005, 03:25 PM
omg your 25 you speak like a fuckin looser noob noob all Now go learn what real skill is.

rofl, classic haxxor statement :monkeysmi :4-punch:

rapier
20-11-2005, 03:25 PM
no doubt u hardly expect people who are caught to come on here and say fuckit you caught red handed fair enough... thing is you are caught, we know that is the end of it WE KNOW, try to understand that part. your defense is utter piddle.

And 'raged' where u get that term eh??? hmm i wonder

sumdumgai
20-11-2005, 03:26 PM
Uh most of the regulars have faith in the decisions of the mods and will firmly back them up on their decisions.

When the demo gets posted, we'll all get to see how you played, then probably we'll point our fingers at you and laugh. :badgrin:

It's funny to watch people get self-righteous and go into denial. :4-toilet:

FraG-TurD
20-11-2005, 03:26 PM
well u got the 25 bit right, Shame about the rest.
And even if it was correct what would that prove ?? NOT A FUCKING LOT!
You the noob that has to hax to killl people on an online game not me fuck nose.
And if u ask me i would say your the one who is getting raged.

hahahahahahaha

FraG-TurD
20-11-2005, 03:28 PM
And 'raged' where u get that term eh??? hmm i wonder

Good point rapier i wonder where he did get that term from ????

NoDoubt
20-11-2005, 03:30 PM
not really because i dont cheat and i am trying to get it into ur heads. An another thing i am in a decent clan and have made some real nice mates and u cum along and start accusing me of cheating.

FraG-TurD
20-11-2005, 03:33 PM
See whatever you say will not explain the demos we have of u haxing so it wont get into our heads as we know the truth. But being the nooob you are like the rest of them will deny it always.
I think its time for you to move on and go hax with uk2 or whoever you like to test that shit out with.

SubbY
20-11-2005, 03:33 PM
not really because i dont cheat and i am trying to get it into ur heads. An another thing i am in a decent clan and have made some real nice mates and u cum along and start accusing me of cheating.
oh u re romantically minded! my eyes were filled with tears! ROFL :leb:

wA|Ab
20-11-2005, 03:35 PM
ok no doubt these lot must have hard evidence to be making these accusations. but ive got to admit all the times i was playin with him i didnt see anything wrong. and i take the advice to watch and get to know the player b4 hand. wen will the demo be posted?

NoDoubt
20-11-2005, 03:36 PM
u guys need to grow up and stop accusing the people who kill u of cheating.

FraG-TurD
20-11-2005, 03:36 PM
I was just waiting for someone to ask.
DEMOS (http://www.4shared.com/file/492384/a275dd08/cstrike.html)
Demos have been reviewed by all admins. and all agree with ban.
So say what u like about the demos but people that have been recording and banning for years know when its hax and this is very blatant so not a lot or skill required to spot the cheats.

FraG-TurD
20-11-2005, 03:39 PM
u guys need to grow up and stop accusing the people who kill u of cheating.
LOL another classic haxor line

No doubt u never kille dme once so what the fuck are u on about ???
We was informed that your game play was suspect and oh look you was cheating like a noob.
So dont go telling us to grow u u stupid child.
Damn :monkeysmi boy

wA|Ab
20-11-2005, 03:41 PM
wat program u using to view?

FraG-TurD
20-11-2005, 03:42 PM
you need to unpack the files into this directory.
C:\Program Files\Valve\Steam\SteamApps\your email\counter-strike source\cstrike

Then in console just type playdemo and ther file name.
playdemo haxors - for example.

ANd ur CL man you need to do soe homework on how :) :) :)

wA|Ab
20-11-2005, 03:45 PM
im not a Source Veteran.....never even played 1.6. jus a FPS vet. how long u played 4?

FraG-TurD
20-11-2005, 03:47 PM
hehehe i was only joking with you m8, but i been playing about 4 years i think. Always been a gamer since i can remember and normally only play fps games now :)

NoDoubt
20-11-2005, 03:50 PM
lol these demos r so funny cant see why they suggest i cheat? Cuz i always look out for enmeys and u can see that here so how r they demos of me hacking? You are so funny frag alot i think i am gonan send these to youve been framed.

Red Devil 72
20-11-2005, 03:51 PM
Another hacking n00b caught... now stfu NoDoubt I also recorded you yesterday on office... What a dumbass you are, tracking everyone through walls, did you ever try to hide your n00b hacks ? HAha guess not :4-punch:
Here is my demo (http://www.4shared.com/file/493972/79a58641/NoDoubt.html)
Why did you donate towards FM servers btw ? Maybe you thought you could hack freely ? :To funny: Another n00b less :D Wanker :4-punch:

FraG-TurD
20-11-2005, 03:52 PM
i think i am gonan send these to youve been framed.

Yep you do that, And say what u like. I didnt expect you to say you caught me red handed or anything.
Cocks never do our judgement from our admins is final. U cheated and thats final steam will van ban you soon enough.
bye bye no doubt.

wA|Ab
20-11-2005, 03:53 PM
lol aight. i downloaded the file to the folder. is that it?

FraG-TurD
20-11-2005, 03:54 PM
No you need to unpack the rar file into that folder so you have the .dem files.

ThE NaMeLeSs
20-11-2005, 04:00 PM
hmm that explains some strange looking kills....
btw i installed em b ut cant look em can somebody help/explain??

Red Devil 72
20-11-2005, 04:04 PM
Use Winrar or Winzip
Then extract file into your CS:S folder
Start CS:S, open console & type playdemo "name"


ThjIs is not the place to explain on how to view demos ffs.
Its an appeal section.
If you want to know how start a new thread please.

Agreed

sumdumgai
20-11-2005, 04:04 PM
Try using win rar to get the files out.

Fact: Haxxors are known to have small penises.
Fact2: Some haxxors have no dick, yet are supposed to be male.
Fact3: FM admins have been known to flip out and ban haxxors, then hunt them down and kill them so that they don't come back with another cd key.
Fact4: FM admins are all ninjas.
Fact5: FM admins are mammals.
Fact6: Nodoubt has been banned. And for the decision upon his ban there is: no doubt :P

wA|Ab
20-11-2005, 04:04 PM
aight fuck it then. i'll take your word 4 it frag.

NoDoubt
20-11-2005, 04:05 PM
this so funny none of these demos even show any signs of hacks as each player i have kills i have seen by appearing infront then going back n killin him so i think you have no evidence at all and basically cant take me taking u out and wreckin ur ranks.


It's not over yet
His cry to his brother
The place that he vets
It's not like the other

16

FraG-TurD
20-11-2005, 04:06 PM
Try what red said. as he posted it :)

Red Devil 72
20-11-2005, 04:06 PM
Why don't you just admit you fucking wanker, you won't be unbanned acting like that moron :monkeysmi

FraG-TurD
20-11-2005, 04:06 PM
this so funny none of these demos even show any signs of hacks as each player i have kills i have seen by appearing infront then going back n killin him so i think you have no evidence at all and basically cant take me taking u out and wreckin ur ranks.

Yeah whatever then all our admins are wrong and ur right i think not.

NoDoubt
20-11-2005, 04:07 PM
i am dissapointed in all these people that belive the admins cuz there proof is rubbish and because they are admins doesnt mean they r special or god and can get evrything rite.

This is a mesage to the admins to remind them to grow up and be careful of who they acuse of cheating. You just cant handle another player better than u in the server.

NoDoubt
20-11-2005, 04:08 PM
oh and if anyone hacks its u guys iwth ur headshots and ur aimbots but hay its ur server u do wat u want but i can see wat u havent been let into ED.

NoDoubt
20-11-2005, 04:09 PM
Red Devil admit wat cuz i honestly do not hack but u guys keep going on but i am strong and know i am not a cheater and never will be

FraG-TurD
20-11-2005, 04:09 PM
lmao ho wwas u better than us u muppet.
Explain ???? u never killed me once ? so how u better than me ??
I get called a cheat quite a bit (just like u did the other day fuck face) but i know i dont and i do take it as a thanks.
But you do hax and our admins are right and ur just being a typical haxing wanker (which we expect) so go fuck of donate to another server and hax them.
You will not be unbanned form here.

Red Devil 72
20-11-2005, 04:10 PM
LoL he is so funny isn't it ? You are the 1 who should grow up & admit you have been cheating. FM admins are rarely wrong you know or should I say never ? :P

NoDoubt
20-11-2005, 04:11 PM
i dont hack so fuck u damn fukin asshole u shud learn to stop playin games at a such a old age wat a fukin looser ur there all day playin games
Did u get bullyed at skool or sumthin?

FraG-TurD
20-11-2005, 04:11 PM
oh and if anyone hacks its u guys iwth ur headshots and ur aimbots but hay its ur server u do wat u want but i can see wat u havent been let into ED.

Erm what the fuck u on about now
We are in ED u dumb shit so fuck you!!!!!!

NoDoubt
20-11-2005, 04:11 PM
you are wrong this time i shall never admit to thinks i never do

FraG-TurD
20-11-2005, 04:12 PM
i dont hack so fuck u damn fukin asshole u shud learn to stop playin games at a such a old age wat a fukin looser ur there all day playin games
Did u get bullyed at skool or sumthin?

omg the school boy antics have arrived another typical haxor noob moment coming up guys :)

Red Devil 72
20-11-2005, 04:13 PM
Time to ban the n00b from forums I think, getting bored tbh... Bu||$h!T !

FraG-TurD
20-11-2005, 04:14 PM
you are wrong this time i shall never admit to thinks i never do
We are not wrong you are just a fucking twat. WHo thinks talking shit will get him out of this mess.
How fucking wrong you are.

NoDoubt
20-11-2005, 04:14 PM
yeh ban me from eveything cuz i owned ur asses

bUG
20-11-2005, 04:14 PM
hack, cough cough

FraG-TurD
20-11-2005, 04:14 PM
lol u wish noob!!!!!
SO full of yourself and you have to hax to get kills.
Lame little noob!

sumdumgai
20-11-2005, 04:15 PM
Objection to no doubt's accusations! (http://www.reset931.net/saiban/Obj_Nar.swf?inputStr=Ban+him+for+stupidity%21) And I do mean forum ban him.
I hate when people get self-righteous and deny things when they've been caught red handed. Then they fling poo at everyone and go down as a drama queen, bunch of monkeys :monkeysmi .

edit: to make things clear

SubbY
20-11-2005, 04:20 PM
thx for this thread no doubt!
im sitting here wit beer and chips and laughing about ur noobish haxxor statements! :monkeysmi its like a bad movie, rofl

FraG-TurD
20-11-2005, 04:21 PM
oh look another person that confirms u hax so thats what 20 - 1 isnt it. No SKill.
Ur the only person on your deffence i wonder why ?
Oh and sumdumgai is not an admin hes a reg so no shit about hes an admin an saying what u want him to.
I can see that shit flowing from your mouth, so dont bother.

rapier
20-11-2005, 04:21 PM
yeah this is great entertainment :D

Red Devil 72
20-11-2005, 04:22 PM
HAha he owned us LMAO. Hate it when people have to get cheats to prove others & also themself that they're g00d
You are so pathetic NoDoubt...

FraG-TurD
20-11-2005, 04:23 PM
Yeah one of the best appeals ever.
10/10

SubbY
20-11-2005, 04:26 PM
http://www.forumspile.com/LOL-ROFL_Copter.gif

rapier
20-11-2005, 04:27 PM
irishman will probably post later too saying u hax. Remember him no doubt? irishman and flexus both saying you wallhack before the notion was discussed among the admin.

sumdumgai
20-11-2005, 04:28 PM
No doubt claims he doesn't hack!
http://img480.imageshack.us/img480/9436/28845242pt.gif (http://imageshack.us)

FraG-TurD
20-11-2005, 04:28 PM
irishman will probably post later too saying u hax. Remember him no doubt? irishman and flexus both saying you wallhack before the notion was discussed among the admin.

http://www.owned-pictures.com/owned-pictures/003.jpg

Olly
20-11-2005, 04:29 PM
no doubt, there is a quote button,. if u do0nt even know how to use a forum how did u get the hax? lol

Red Devil 72
20-11-2005, 04:31 PM
http://h4te0.tripod.com/sig1/thumbnails/600x450/007.jpg

steven
20-11-2005, 04:36 PM
Red your image doesnt work.

No Doubt you have been caught just admit it you cock. demo's prove that you do hack (even though i dont play source i still viewed the demo's) they are right. now all you need to do is admit it or piss off.

wA|Ab
20-11-2005, 04:37 PM
i have never seen a wall hack in action. so maybe its just me but this is DEFINATLEY questionable! i admit it seems strange staring at the wall, sidestepping out. im guna stop doin that me thinks. it aint up 2 me, u lot know how its done. if he is hacking he's the shittest hacker ive seen. doubt i dont think ur gettin back on so...admit it. if u have ne thing to admit

ThE NaMeLeSs
20-11-2005, 04:38 PM
oh look another person that confirms u hax so thats what 20 - 1 isnt it. No SKill.

Oh and sumdumgai is not an admin hes a reg so no shit about hes an admin an saying what u want him to.


this one demo really convenced me
that this is just a f00cking hax

so ya can do a 21-1 :D
sawn a lot of times situations like this(ingame)
but your reaction wooooaaahhh :monkeysmi

and doubt so you havent to reply to this
im a reg too an no admin :p
look at fm guys playin to learn
oooopps you are baned,damn i forgot :p

Red Devil 72
20-11-2005, 04:41 PM
The picture (http://h4te0.tripod.com/sig1/thumbnails/600x450/007.jpg) is working for me ?
Anyways that was NoDoubt getting his ass kicked by FM admins :smiley:

steven
20-11-2005, 04:42 PM
just says user posted image on mine. but anyway nvm

FraG-TurD
20-11-2005, 04:43 PM
Lol not working for me either on both links :(

NoDoubt
20-11-2005, 04:45 PM
no wa ab i do not cheat but so many people are convinced i do i will just have to play on another server
I guess these people have never heard of tactics or surround sound speakers or shadows but hay i must find another server to play on with true players that do not moan

ThE NaMeLeSs
20-11-2005, 04:46 PM
no wa ab i do not cheat but so many people are convinced i do i will just have to play on another server
I guess these people have never heard of tactics or surround sound speakers or shadows but hay i must find another server to play on with true players that do not moan

you mean you must found another server where you can play untill you get banned there too?? :eek:

FraG-TurD
20-11-2005, 04:47 PM
no wa ab i do not cheat but so many people are convinced i do i will just have to play on another server
I guess these people have never heard of tactics or surround sound speakers or shadows but hay i must find another server to play on with true players that do not moan

whatever you fucking penis, 21 people are not wrong u fucking cock blower.
bye bye

rapier
20-11-2005, 04:47 PM
nor me :monkeysmi (reds pic link that is :) )



i have never seen a wall hack in action. so maybe its just me but this is DEFINATLEY questionable! i admit it seems strange staring at the wall, sidestepping out. im guna stop doin that me thinks. it aint up 2 me, u lot know how its done. if he is hacking he's the shittest hacker ive seen. doubt i dont think ur gettin back on so...admit it. if u have ne thing to admit

Thing is when someone sides steps in and out they often have to slighty adjust their aim, they do not line up their crosshair on the guy first and then step out unless they can see them.
Secondly, he knew where the last few players always are without checking corners and such, but that is only a small part of it, the demos show everything

NoDoubt
20-11-2005, 04:47 PM
oh and another thing its only a fooking game i do not care wat u think or say cuz its not real life i have committed no crime nor have i cheated but hay i find this funny as it is liek a court case over a game i brought for 20 quid down asda :D

Red Devil 72
20-11-2005, 04:48 PM
Hum weird... uploaded with imageshack :4-punch:
NoDoubt getting his ass kicked by FM admins :

http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/9075/0072fu.jpg

:) :) :)

wA|Ab
20-11-2005, 04:49 PM
im not sure wat to think bout this....im guna have to stop sidestepping out of corridors. sorry doubt. if he can see ppl behind walls, y did flex pop out behind a box and kill him.

NoDoubt
20-11-2005, 04:49 PM
i can buy another one and plus im moving soon :D which means new ip and new steam id :D guess i will be takin a break

wA|Ab
20-11-2005, 04:51 PM
well if we wont see u again...nows the time, u hack yes or no?

Red Devil 72
20-11-2005, 04:51 PM
Don't worry, even with a new CD-Key & IP we will catch you again... asshole

rapier
20-11-2005, 04:53 PM
waab my advice to you is study the demos you will learn a lot trust me, study them and press shift +f2 for player controls you can slow down the speed.

ThE NaMeLeSs
20-11-2005, 04:55 PM
Don't worry, even with a new CD-Key & IP we will catch you again... asshole
btw thx at admins which do clean the server from assholes :)
makes game back to fun :thanks-t:



haxing ass :4-hanged:

NoDoubt
20-11-2005, 04:55 PM
no wa ab i do not hack and this is to everyone else who calls me a cheater

FraG-TurD
20-11-2005, 04:56 PM
yeah because we all hate you for no reason what so ever.
Just fuck off!

ThE NaMeLeSs
20-11-2005, 04:57 PM
i can buy another one and plus im moving soon :D which means new ip and new steam id :D guess i will be takin a break

i read a lot of other baned guys
that are just the guys doin' which cheated :leb:

aky
20-11-2005, 04:59 PM
http://www.forumspile.com/LOL-ROFL_Copter.gif


I have that on my a-k-y.co.uk :D

wA|Ab
20-11-2005, 05:03 PM
no wa ab i do not hack and this is to everyone else who calls me a cheater

ok....guttin i thought i bagged a good member 4 MuGz :P see every1 else online

sumdumgai
20-11-2005, 05:04 PM
It's one thing when a guy pops out from around a corner, then quickly adjusts his aim to a target and gets a kill. It's another thing when the guy pops out with aim already locked onto a target before he could see the target.

Another way to tell is when people start spamming walls or doors and there is no visual or aditory way that they could have known someone was there. That means, no barrel sticking out from around a corner, no shadow on the ground to give away their position.

Those are basic ways to tell.

ThE NaMeLeSs
20-11-2005, 05:13 PM
was looking giga as i could (cause they are now digital :()
and looked everytime when was cs and css matches

and in some maps are points where you have to shoot through , like on nukes bomb places or assult :D cause you can shoot there and some other tactic shit

but things he done are really a mystery :p
i sawn lot of things in giga but that i never sawn nobody was using this"tactics"
so fuck the hell of with "im not cheating"
cause ya did

SubbY
20-11-2005, 05:25 PM
no wa ab i do not cheat but so many people are convinced i do i will just have to play on another server
I guess these people have never heard of tactics or surround sound speakers or shadows but hay i must find another server to play on with true players that do not moan
what are tactics and wtf is playing with sound?hmm im dunnu! :monkeysmi


i can buy another one and plus im moving soon :D which means new ip and new steam id :D guess i will be takin a break
cmon waste ur money, lol :monkeysmi we will catch ya again :) :4-punch:

NoDoubt
20-11-2005, 05:32 PM
EDITED: Racist remark removed.
catch me for what ?

SubbY
20-11-2005, 05:32 PM
lol.

Red Devil 72
20-11-2005, 05:33 PM
BAN HIM FFS

FraG-TurD
20-11-2005, 05:37 PM
Topic closed due to racist remarks from nodoubt. Have screen shot if needed.

Fragmaster
20-11-2005, 08:43 PM
re-opened because I am back :D

Red Devil 72
20-11-2005, 08:55 PM
What could we add ? We said enough tbh

rapier
20-11-2005, 09:16 PM
lol fm

DarkSide
20-11-2005, 09:24 PM
NoDoubt shut up now you little retard! You fucking cheated, live with it and waste your money for a new key and get caught again maybe you start realizing that we are not total fags like you. It sucks to be banned for life and it rocks looking at little whining cunts with racist remarks as the last choice!

http://ebaumsworld.com/forumfun/negative6.gif

Fragmaster
20-11-2005, 09:29 PM
I have reviewed the demo personally with other admins. I made the final decison as I have stated to the other admins that I would only ban provided that I get a clear evidence. I do not like banning regulars and take any bans seriously. I have been playing Counterstrike since the beta stages 5years +. I review all demos fully and yes I do have the state of the art pc with multi-speakers THX cinema setup. I spend shit loads of money on my pc hardware & sound system. I shall be soon getting a 24" TFT screen shortly.

I have also been a admin for Fragworld community servers for 2 years before starting Fragmasters community servers.

I have seen all kind of hacks aka my knowledge is very extensive. "I can write a book on the subject". Only timmeh can beat me on this field. I have seen demos of many hackors, epecially professional hackors and the ones who excatly code cheats "make them".

I have reviewed your case fully. You have been banned for wallhacking. There are so many signs and it was very easy and noticeable when you hacked. You knew the locations of players.

You linned up your crossairs directly onto your enemy behind walls.
You "pre-aimed" at your enemy before any sightings
You "pre-fired" prior to a visual sighting directly onto the enemy
You "traced" your enemies
You were "using objects" while killing an enemy and staying out of sight from the next, as you knew the location of the other enemy.
You did not even bother looking around at "obvious" camping spots and chased them down without any visual sightings.
My favourite map was de_cbble on that demo - plenty of quality examples there.

Wallhacking: Enables you to see players, weapons and player actions aka reloading, throwing a grenade..etc through a wall. Its like having an x-ray visions.


The End.


p.s. Fragmasters Community has well over 2,500 bans active.

Raider
20-11-2005, 09:31 PM
Try using win rar to get the files out.

Fact: Haxxors are known to have small penises.
Fact2: Some haxxors have no dick, yet are supposed to be male.
Fact3: FM admins have been known to flip out and ban haxxors, then hunt them down and kill them so that they don't come back with another cd key.
Fact4: FM admins are all ninjas.
Fact5: FM admins are mammals.
Fact6: Nodoubt has been banned. And for the decision upon his ban there is: no doubt :P

lmao

HeadshoT
20-11-2005, 09:56 PM
ROFL, this is so ironic it is quality :D

we had this guy on trial at WdW - bt strange thing is apart from him being poor at the game, he accused me (and WdW) to being a hacking clan!!!

he even said we was all signed up to hacking sites rofl!!!

you know what they say - "revenge is a dish best served up your ass" or something to that effect!!
:4-punch:

well ive had my say, last word on it, couldnt of happened to a better person :smiley:

Silk
20-11-2005, 10:01 PM
Try using win rar to get the files out.

Fact: Haxxors are known to have small penises.
Fact2: Some haxxors have no dick, yet are supposed to be male.
Fact3: FM admins have been known to flip out and ban haxxors, then hunt them down and kill them so that they don't come back with another cd key.
Fact4: FM admins are all ninjas.
Fact5: FM admins are mammals.
Fact6: Nodoubt has been banned. And for the decision upon his ban there is: no doubt :P

hack or not to hack???

anyway nice bit of poetry from sumdumgai.

and posting reduces my defersit.

sumdumgai
20-11-2005, 10:12 PM
"Revenge is a dish best served cold." -quote from Star Trek II used in Kill Bill

"Yes it's true. This man has no dick." :P Can anyone say what movie it's from? We all know who it's applied to in this thread!:D

rapier
20-11-2005, 11:13 PM
ROFL, this is so ironic it is quality :D

we had this guy on trial at WdW - bt strange thing is apart from him being poor at the game, he accused me (and WdW) to being a hacking clan!!!

he even said we was all signed up to hacking sites rofl!!!

you know what they say - "revenge is a dish best served up your ass" or something to that effect!!
:4-punch:

well ive had my say, last word on it, couldnt of happened to a better person :smiley:


headshot he asked to join pong also and accused two members of hacking

Kayz
21-11-2005, 12:58 AM
lol i hear this is the section where the most laughs happen? lols, enjoyed some of the replys up there ^^

Well i think Mr. No doubt is living up to his name! lols i think hes still doubting himeself still! whether he cheated or not! lols..., well,

First thing i noticed after reading some of his posts up there and after seeing the demos:


He's sill a little kid, i predict an 11 year old!
He has been hacking for sure!
He dosent actaully know how to hack yet, this is because he's still a newbie to the game!
The first thing that got me after seeing the demos is that the way he throws his nades, he always misses or goes the wrong way!
He is actually is a very shit player, the way he plays and the way he moves in the game!


You see no doubt i know exactly what your thinking..., you didnt blaitantly hack like shoot through walls or use aimbots..., you see people like me with over 7+ years of CS we can tell who hacks and who dosent, its obvious, you dont need aimbot or to shoot through walls, its the way u play, all the pros know it! I play on the server, but use another alias to catch cheaters like yoooou!

Well tuff luck kiddo! Muwahahaha!

:jail:

irishman
21-11-2005, 01:30 AM
hahhaha u wish nub, Your crap even with hax i have seen u play.

Haha it getting more and more funner yur raged i say raged boy :D
I dont hack i never have nor will i ever.

PS i must be crap if most of the server yesterday were sayin i should join FM?

bollocks! I was on playing with you when u were being spec'd and you had a go at Flexus for mentioning ur play was funny, you were tracing through the walls and you made a headshot with an unscoped scout.

I can't remember 1 single person asking you to join FM. FM has the best admins at detecting hackers and you were caught fair and square.

irishman
21-11-2005, 01:32 AM
i was lining someone up thru the wall? WTF u on about did you take to much viagra be4 u went to bed??

Oh and all these lovely comments i dont cheat and i never have so stop accusing me and trying to make me admit to something i have not done.

Maybe you should ask most of your rgeulars i am sure they would tell you that i don't cheat.

Again bollocks! I agree with everyone else, keep posting, these are funny

irishman
21-11-2005, 01:39 AM
i am dissapointed in all these people that belive the admins cuz there proof is rubbish and because they are admins doesnt mean they r special or god and can get evrything rite.

This is a mesage to the admins to remind them to grow up and be careful of who they acuse of cheating. You just cant handle another player better than u in the server.

Nope, all of the admins are very good players who have been playing for a long time.... in fact some of them are chained to chairs and fed through tubes to get as much practise as possible.

All of the demos are audited to check for validity (everybody else is using big words :D) of the ban.

irishman
21-11-2005, 01:52 AM
Oh and thanks for reopening the thread so I could have a say :D

SubbY
21-11-2005, 03:16 AM
nice statements irish, thx! :)

and no doubt, why u insulted me as na*i c*nt? ahh, coz u knew that ur a haxxor, 11 years old with a small penis and no life. so fuck off, get a life and go to myg0t site where rage is a exploit! :monkeysmi

enuf said from my site now! :4-punch:

All ppl know, banned 4 life from the best servers sux hard!! :) :monkeysmi

White Widow
21-11-2005, 10:15 AM
All ppl know, banned 4 life from the best servers sux hard!! :) :monkeysmi

Release the hounds Smithers!!!

dr stealth
21-11-2005, 10:51 AM
"Revenge is a dish best served cold." -quote from Star Trek II used in Kill Bill

"Yes it's true. This man has no dick." :P Can anyone say what movie it's from? We all know who it's applied to in this thread!:D

first off 'revenge is a dish best served cold' is shakespear, from julius ceaser. its older than that being used in forms by the acient greek philosphers.

'yes its true, this man has no dick,' is out of Good morning vietnam, said by robin williams.

Bantros
21-11-2005, 11:53 AM
HAHAHA NO DOUBT YOU FUCKING CUNT!! WHAT A TWAT YOU ARE!!

This is what happens when you are a 16 year old child who sucks at a game and has to cheat. Everyone, take a gander here (http://www.pongclan.com/thread.php?573) if you want more laughs. This idiot was giving me shit for three days straight, sending me Xfire messages and screaming abuse down his mic because I was getting some good scores.

sumdumgai
21-11-2005, 12:42 PM
first off 'revenge is a dish best served cold' is shakespear, from julius ceaser. its older than that being used in forms by the acient greek philosphers.

'yes its true, this man has no dick,' is out of Good morning vietnam, said by robin williams.
I wasn't expecting anyone to dwelve deeper than movie trivia, but yeah timeless quotes are the best. :D

As for the no dick quote, I was thinking more of Bill Murray in Ghostbusters. :P

Sooo, no doubt is now banned for life for the servers. He has either no dick or a miniscule one, he's prepubescent, castrated, has a whiny high pitched voice, has no skills, is a noob, can't even hack properly, and is probably the loser biotch that everyone makes fun of in school because he thinks he's cool but he's really a knob. :leb:

It's so sad that asswipes like nodoubt have to turn to cheats to compensate for their lack of skills. I mean does it really stay fun to keep seeing people through walls? Any challenge (obviously yes, since no doubt lacked in skills even with hax)? What about aim bot? Is it all that fun to get headshot after headshot when you only have to pull the trigger? You could probably have more fun looking at porn and attempting to find your dick to jack off, if you're that bad off...

So away goes another knob. Who was also one of those attention whore drama queens. "LOOK AT ME!!! I DIDN'T CHEAT! I'M SELF RIGHTEOUS!!! I HAVE RIGHTS!!!" This is Fragmaster's playground. His admins guard all the doors, they're holding all the keys. Fragmaster's admins make sure that the other kids play nice and play by the rules. There's no systemic anomaly to fight them, because they're the cops of the server. Fragmaster is kind enough to have rules for the admins to abide by. It's not a democracy, you don't have a right to play on the server, you are privaleged to play.
When you act like a dipshit and total assclown by hacking and breaking the simple server rules, your privalege is revoked.
HELL! There's even this appeals section, which dipshits like no doubt abuse, playing self-righteous and denying everything.

You got caught, no doubt. And if you come back with another cd key, you'll get caught again. There's a difference between a newbie and a noob. Newbies learn and grow. Noobs like you don't learn, and don't grow.

So fuck off noob. :4-punch:

ThE NaMeLeSs
21-11-2005, 06:24 PM
wouldnt be now the time to close here??
we all had a big laugh but he can get us laugh more, when he is baned
so guess close it :)

irishman
21-11-2005, 06:55 PM
I wasn't expecting anyone to dwelve deeper than movie trivia, but yeah timeless quotes are the best. :D

As for the no dick quote, I was thinking more of Bill Murray in Ghostbusters. :P

Sooo, no doubt is now banned for life for the servers. He has either no dick or a miniscule one, he's prepubescent, castrated, has a whiny high pitched voice, has no skills, is a noob, can't even hack properly, and is probably the loser biotch that everyone makes fun of in school because he thinks he's cool but he's really a knob. :leb:

It's so sad that asswipes like nodoubt have to turn to cheats to compensate for their lack of skills. I mean does it really stay fun to keep seeing people through walls? Any challenge (obviously yes, since no doubt lacked in skills even with hax)? What about aim bot? Is it all that fun to get headshot after headshot when you only have to pull the trigger? You could probably have more fun looking at porn and attempting to find your dick to jack off, if you're that bad off...

So away goes another knob. Who was also one of those attention whore drama queens. "LOOK AT ME!!! I DIDN'T CHEAT! I'M SELF RIGHTEOUS!!! I HAVE RIGHTS!!!" This is Fragmaster's playground. His admins guard all the doors, they're holding all the keys. Fragmaster's admins make sure that the other kids play nice and play by the rules. There's no systemic anomaly to fight them, because they're the cops of the server. Fragmaster is kind enough to have rules for the admins to abide by. It's not a democracy, you don't have a right to play on the server, you are privaleged to play.
When you act like a dipshit and total assclown by hacking and breaking the simple server rules, your privalege is revoked.
HELL! There's even this appeals section, which dipshits like no doubt abuse, playing self-righteous and denying everything.

You got caught, no doubt. And if you come back with another cd key, you'll get caught again. There's a difference between a newbie and a noob. Newbies learn and grow. Noobs like you don't learn, and don't grow.

So fuck off noob. :4-punch:

Well Said Sum!! I was getting tearful near the end and then noticed the final line.

FraG-TurD
21-11-2005, 07:27 PM
This is Fragmaster's playground. His admins guard all the doors, they're holding all the keys.

heheheh love that line :)

Agree with irish well said sum :)

aky
21-11-2005, 08:20 PM
Hes worse than me! Fucking hell mate the demos show hacking, i know what to look for and i found it.

I tried to watch the demos as if i wasnt suspecting u and i could tell.

Give up u knob!stick

steven
21-11-2005, 08:53 PM
aky do you even have source?

aky
21-11-2005, 09:15 PM
Yes.

AzTr!cKy^
22-11-2005, 09:20 PM
Ok my views

A. i have wathced all those demos and can see quite a few reasons why you are being accused...and tbh they have good right, because that is blatent

B. some of these people you claim to be killing useing "3d sound" etc aint even moving....wheres the sound comin from?

C. you were what i like to call "spidermaning the walls" stayin right up close and personal with the walls strafing across lining up rdy for when your opening apeared to fire...and tbh you did this alot....and all the cases of wallhacks ive seen i can say that spidermaning the walls is 1 of many attempts to cover a wallhack. IT DOESNT WORK!

D. i know alot you were typing alot....but either you have hardly any fingers...or no clue to where keys are on keyboards because you took ages to reply to people...so my conclusion is you were typing to people...but the rest of the time you were sat dormant you were either adjusting whatever hacking.exe was runnin in the background lol or you were watching people be4 you made a move

E. to come on here and throw abuse around gives me even more reason to believe your blatent bollox...otherwise you would have come on here in a nice freindly manner asking to review the situation and not flaming out when some gives you a little stick!

F. Sound gives you the ability to tell weather some1 is coming or not...but sound does not aim your crosshair for you, it just alerts you to other payers present to your area...depending on sound quality...even the best of sound couldnt perform some of the stuff you pulled off...especially in source. 1.6 it used to be possible with some drivers and hardware to hear from spawn to spawn on big maps...small maps its still possible...but maps such as office office extended dust and cbble ETC it aint as far as im aware...im not sayin that it isnt entirly possible people out there may have tweaked there sound enough to able to do such things....small ranged spawn points such as dust2, pinache,texture them sort of maps where the spawn points are close it is possible.

G. i often watch people who i think are "dodgey" if i suspect wallhacks i watch there movement and aiming...the thing i look for most is there movement is certain situations...like office for instance running from spawn staright to the offices not lookin anywhere but in front climbing out the window still not looking anywhere but then turning straight towards an enemy...basically gives me the idea that they knew there was gonna be know1 there to see them...and they knew know1 was there be4 they even started to enter that area...and the aiming gives it away especially if shots are lined up be4 a player has even got to that point through a wall!
aimbots are harder to look for if there well coverd up....i just look for snapping of the crosshair towards a player model...or a swirly motion of crosshair be4 or after firing...dead give away tbh the perfect 360 degree motion of the crosshair about 5 or 6 times basically ses to me there bollox and they need to be banned....then sit there and say oh its me i allways do it...WHAT SO YA CAN SPIN THE CROSSHAIR IN A PERFECT CIRCLE MORE THAN ONCE IN A SHORT SPACE OF TIME...ok i beleive you

fuck off tbh

bUG
22-11-2005, 09:36 PM
Ouch Az! :4-punch:

ThE NaMeLeSs
22-11-2005, 09:47 PM
i thought sumdums or fms is long
but the award for longest reply goes tooooooooo...:aztricky
congrat :4-punch:

sumdumgai
22-11-2005, 09:49 PM
If you spin out of control and get a kill once in a billion times, because you got cat hair again in your optical mouse and it spazs out on you, okay. I love my cat, but sometimes I feel this urge to shave him. :P lol I have the mouse spaz out on me because of cat hair and no mat for the mouse, but I can't remember getting a kill while it happens. Damned annoying when you're in the middle of a rush and then you start spinning in circles staring at the ceiling. :D

If you spin six times, fire while jumping in midair and get a headshot through a wall or door regularly. Wow. You think you're John Woo, or Neo. And you will be banned for being a noob haxxor. :P And you'll have people point and laugh at you when your a noob at being a haxxor too! :P:D

ThE NaMeLeSs
22-11-2005, 09:54 PM
you neva throuwn a nade when you spinned eh??
then you missed a lot of fun hehehe...........

sumdumgai
22-11-2005, 09:58 PM
Hey nameless, you're broke. Someone rob you? :D
It wasn't me.

Aztricky made nice points, 10.0. :D

Ka1n
23-11-2005, 01:02 AM
LOL 11111111111110111111111111111111111111011111111111 11111111 ROFLMAO

xD n00b plain simple n00b heheh im going to wach that clip 4 times over its that funny xD

god =D im suprised he did not say "i herd there footsteps" lmao xD

hehehe

~Ka1n~

P.S lmao hahahahahaha hes a n00b dam haxor xD

ThE NaMeLeSs
23-11-2005, 01:22 AM
Hey nameless, you're broke. Someone rob you? :D
It wasn't me.

Aztricky made nice points, 10.0. :D
i dont really understand what ya meant

but i meant that my mouse is spinning out of control too and i had it as i was throuwing a nade

hurt bout 5 guys:D
from my site :4-punch:

(i havent to say that they were insulting me,and i havent to saay that everyone had a laugh who watched it.....)

Fragmaster
23-11-2005, 01:31 AM
Any final words, NoDoubt before I close this thread.

p.s. At least have the decency to put your hands up and admit that you cheated.

Bantros
23-11-2005, 06:03 AM
I hacked into SOVIETs account and I just want to say that he is a really, really great guy and beats me hands down because I am rubbish and I am also a little prick with no bollocks thank you goodbye

Bantros
23-11-2005, 06:04 AM
Well, those were great last words I'd say, better change my password






























BWAHAHAHA!!

ThE NaMeLeSs
23-11-2005, 01:52 PM
Any final words, NoDoubt before I close this thread.

p.s. At least have the decency to put your hands up and admit that you cheated.

erm... when a name is grey what means that???

and btw fm i thought he was baned from the css/cs1.6 servers

and i guess grey name means baned from forum too
sooooo, how shell he say any final words????? :huh:

Red Devil 72
23-11-2005, 02:14 PM
He isn't banned from the forums, only from both CS:S servers.
Take a look here (http://phi.asmallorange.com/~khalik/forum/showgroups.php?)
Banned users are banned from forums (mostly banned from servers also) & users in grey are only banned from servers and can still post here.

ThE NaMeLeSs
23-11-2005, 02:43 PM
ah thx for another info :)

will save data in my brain :p

but i guess he dont will anything cause he is a foocking arse :D

irishman
23-11-2005, 11:49 PM
I think no doubt has gotten the message, time to close this thread.

Wizard
24-11-2005, 01:12 AM
i have never spoke to him.

had never even heard of him till i found it he was banned today.

still have never spoke to him.

has anyone else watched the demos because i watched them twice over.

first of all, i have great respect for rs, and enjoy watching him - but the amount of evidence to deem nodoubt a wallhacker is FAR INFERIOR to that of deeming rs one.

and again, i am not saying that so you think rs is a wallhacker - because i DO NOT.

on the first demo he *blatantly* shoots at desks facing down and computers in far office. just randomly. a noob/careless trait. he is facing corner at the corridor because of possible flashbangs.

on ALL demos, in what shape or form can he spec the walls in that speed and be able to interact with the map + move the way he does. first of the physics of source maps need to provide a hack which can highlight the t_model or ct_model through the OBJECTS of the map.

on demo6 is the point where he stares at the wall the longest which would convince anyone who does not know the map + read the chat he is wallhacking (even though past that ct sniper wall point [above ladder] there is nothing TO SPEC as it is a VOID area.) - but maybe you didnt notice something so obvious ph33r + frag-turd (i have a strong feeling you may have even tho from reading the chat u were present in all demos). because if you pay close attention to the chat quarter of the interface they are having a conversation and he is typing the longest message which has typos in it to prove he is not that good a typer.

on demo5 is probably the strongest evidence to suggest his is not a wallhacker/and possibly is.

the beginning he goes up ladder + sees his teammate shooting on right side of map. so he goes and his cursor is right on the enemy. so you may think wallhackign but highly impossibel considering the speed of his moving to the right then back again.

but there is a point where in the CT Sniper tower on CBBLE he goes to the Ladder and hears a player coming up. in ALL that time for wallspecing (far more time than the other *suspected* wallhacking points in his demos) he is UNABLE to differentiate between t and ct and shoots at CT.

he cant even throw flashbangs properly. but has a still aim.

the type of wallhack he was using would require an IMMENSE amount of control + speed. do you realise how quick it must be morphing from wall map piercing to line of sight. and for a player who can barely move his mouse and type + use items and spends half the game changing between guns.

did you notice how slow he changes his weapons + indicting a mouse wheel that can be observed as time to wallhack but not if you ntoice that he is changing weapons and setting them so he can flick to previous weapon.

what is his situation has admitted wallhacking? i will be shocked if he did. has he professed innocence?

because if he is treated this way on the SUBSTANCE of those DEMOS alone. then it is outrageous that rs is a member of FM let alone playing on this server.

i have literally seen rs turn and spec an outpoint of a door or passage way where ct may come in great patience for a wildly long time. even when there are two to three other possible pathways for cts to emerge from.

when ghosting - i have left first person of rs (at this poitn of huge intervals) and gone to see if there is an ENEMY there. and everytime. i mean EVERYTIME there is an enemy there and at no exit/door which is possible for rs to scout..

i believe this is because rs pays a lot of attention to the radar. he notices when teammates fall down and where + due to his significant knowlegde of the maps is able to determine where the fragging enemy is going to appear.

however. there are just so much more issues involved and in terms of nodoubt. significantly harsh decision.

peace.

Wizard
24-11-2005, 01:29 AM
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irishman
24-11-2005, 01:51 AM
the demos were reviewed by the senior admins, guys who have in some cases been playing online games for 7+ years.

This means that all of these guys are wrong? Every single admin is wrong and every player who reviewed the demos are wrong as well.

You are entitled to your opinion but I do not like the way you have dragged RS into this debate about a player who was caught hacking.

I am prepared to believe that the admins are right and that no doubt was hacking, this is not some blind loyalty but the fact that these guys have been admins for a number of years and know what to look for.

You were not on the server with this player, you did not see him play and although the demos show wall hacking, there were other instances that were extremely dodgy and weren't demo'd.

Fragmaster
24-11-2005, 01:55 AM
Wizard!

Watch all the demos, because you dont know anything about hacks. How long have you been playing? less than 6 months probably.

The favourite was cbble map on the demo- watch it again.

Thankyou for your statement, even thou it was utter bollocks. I made the right decison 101%.- He was hacking and it was blantently obvious.

p.s. ROLFLMAO.. Wizard, you should see some of the cheats done by professional hackors.

Wizard
24-11-2005, 02:25 AM
@ irish man i'm well aware of techinical expertise of the admins and think frag-turd, yeah you, are a GEM of an admin here. you make it sound so horrible when you say "saying all senior admins are wrong" its nothign to do with that m8. and dragging rs? why do you think that is so wrong? there are expert players here who suspect rs, i INFACT, do NOT.

you obviously ignoring the point and if you cared so much for the morality of all of this why are you going out of your way to make nodoubt feel banned regardless of being a cheat. rs issue is a RELEVENT issue - and should not be ignored just because you feel that is not right.

@ ph33r. i have talked to you lot about cheats as it was jinteresting to me, you and turd even pointed me to the forum to observe some demos. and fu for your bollocks comment. why dont u even pay attention.

he is a donater.

i think frag-turd said it best when he said "you still suck" to nodoubt.

to install + operate a wallhack that you have suspected him of is just, on the base of those demos, highly unlikely. his style of play suits the characteristics of someone who is looking through walls but analyse it more!!!

he is a donater. and you ban him on that material?

i sincerely believe your experience is much more and frag-turd is probably 99.9% right on spotting hackers, infact anything technical about the game. but to ignore the fact that what is displayed int hose demos is a fraction of evidence in compared to what could be shown in terms of rs is just naive.

your method of banning this player, specifically because he is a donater is negligent. why?

because you are trying to say that he has donated without being fully aware of what Irish Man quite rightly said: that the senior admins on this site have MORE than enough experience of spotting cheats.

if someone donates dont they know what type of server they are dealing with? dont you think its a bit stupid if he risks that specifically on the fm community even if he donated a quid, to run a cheat.

a cheat he probably can not handle + install.

yes, for frag -turd to install a cheat would be a blink of eye.

i wouldnt even know where to find one.

he donates + unaware that he can run a chat + if you watch his GAEMPLAY...i persoanlly believe he would not know how to INSTALL + OPERATE the cheat. and there is no BLATANT wallhack in ANY of the demos. there is BLATANT misleading wallhacks. which i think is the problem.

you told me bollocks and to look at the CBBLE demos.

if you had read, what i refer to is exactly demo5 and demo6 ph33r. the cbble demos.

yes to the naked eye on demo6 he stares at wall for ages (a wall that behind it is a VOID area anyway ffs). but HE IS TYPING if u pay close attention. i can see how u think he is WALLHACKING and thus used tah tword "Blatantly" and now EVEN say refer to it. its starting to make sense.

on demo5 he is wallhacking?.... the area beneath the ladder right? how come he thinks its a CT when the player comes up.

i am not surprised by nodoubts post even though i think he is coming off like a jerk and handling his situation the wrong way.

Wizard
24-11-2005, 02:28 AM
Wizard!


Thankyou for your statement, even thou it was utter bollocks.

is this the same attitude you had when monitoring his demo? read my above post anyway.

and dont disregard the rs thing cus i have personally spoken to frag-turd on that what i feel and had a response from him but if i was negligent like you are being, i would type it here.

but i wont for sake of being prudent. and plus i beloeve and have told FRAG-turd that i think rs is great. and i do not htink he is cheating. but he is far more *shady* if thsoe demos contain elements of wallhacking.

Wizard
24-11-2005, 02:39 AM
it seems ph33r you should watch the cbble demos again m8.

rather than be obstinate and do thsoe shady things on msn.

yeah, peace be upon you too m8.

Wizard
24-11-2005, 02:47 AM
i hadnt even seen this post or new it existed when i wrote my comments ....my God.

gotta admit its funny - even though its get personal.

i posted originally a new thread in source forum. and now after all those posts i made got a chance to read this......frag-turd feels verystrongly about it....;/...which is makign me think.... but there issomin persoanl between u two if nodoubt said those comments to me i woudl be mad anyway.

all i'm saying is that like you think he is a hacker. i think rs is NOT a hacker....

and i think...from the demos....he is NOT a hacker...

thus if i'm wrong....then mayeb i'm wrong about rs too....

reading this post, again, made me aware that frag-turd feels v.strongly abotu it - nodoubts abusive comments towards people liek f-turd (who prolly dont give a ish) or red devil, are way too offensive....but i'm not surprised on his stern refusal to accept cheating....but still fturd again feel v.strongly about it.

do the admins run cheats themselves? not, obviously for benefit, but i meanto help spot them - cus it woudl help to know the type of wallhack he is suspected of...does it have a name/progger.

because if you think he is managed to do that himself - read his posts again, let alone his demos.

he is an ignorant piece of crap - and i think that plays in his favour tbh of not cheating....

due ot the fact however taht frag-turd feels v/.strongly about this. and it is important to trust his judgement (i think anyway).....my post...from what i read now...may have severely hindered me developing relations with fm admins due to how strongly they feel about this...but neway i didnt know this was filled with the noob vs admin rhetoric....

but ph33r has upset me a lot. anyway.

irishman
24-11-2005, 03:22 AM
I am really confused now, you say that you recognise the skill of the admins at spotting hackers but yet not only are they wrong about the fact that no doubt was hacking but that the reason he was banned, was because it was a personal vendetta.

You called the admins skill into disrepute when you made you post by indicating that they were wrong in this decision ad you are surprised when Pheer responds?

You think RS is not a hacker but that he is "far more shady", this statement again indicates at least some degree that RS is hacking in your opinion.

There are a number of moments in the demos where no doubt seems to know where the enemy is, for example, in Red Devils demo, in the 2nd round, no doubt rushes down the stairs and stops at the bottom of the stairs and caps onfire in the room above. Until the point where onfire moves he cant be seen from that position, how did no doubt know?

In demo5, he goes straight up the ladder to the window and caps both Flex and Hacienda, goes to the side of the window and then moves back and shoots at t beside crate straight away.

In demo6 he goes straight to the same position, looks through box and wall and shoots at t at top of ramp. He caps m4xx at the top of t ramp and while watching I could not even see him there.

There are a lot of instances like this throughout the demos.

Finally you say Pheer has upset you, I cant speak for him but if this was me I would be damn angry, you have suggested that the admins cant tell a hacker and have made this a personal vendetta against 1 player.

AzTr!cKy^
24-11-2005, 03:25 AM
cant beleive you compare rs to the demos of this guy

1. rs does not stick to walls...or to be more precise look at walls!
2. rs is more than capable of being alert to his surroundings...hence his aiming in the right place at the right time..whereas this guy clearly wasnt aware of his surrounding because he didnt need to be..he already knew what was there!
3. rs doesnt know where people are if there not within his sound range. (or if he missed the dot disapear off the radar lol) seen him quite a few times get bum fucked because his enemy was walking yet nodought seemed to know exactly where walkers and stationary people were

and some of the things your saying to make him out not to be a hacker...are you bareing in mind that hackers will die on purpose and do silly things on purpose to make it look like there not hacking??

i refuse to argue....and if you have any demos of rs i would love to see them please...so i compare with what your saying

AzTr!cKy^
24-11-2005, 03:43 AM
just me or is this gettin a little heated...at the end of the day hes banned... he was bein a little prick about it so that should justify the ban a little more =P

Deek
24-11-2005, 03:49 AM
well i watched the demos using wireframe mode, of course people like wizard...experts..lol will know how to do this

and yeah he does wallhack, he was watching people, theyd die, and hed move on or hed kill them following them thro the wall

the best example is cbble

hes follows the terrors on the ramp, nearlly all the people he kills in nodoubt3 i think it is, hes following them thro the wall

edit: just close this lol, unless u want a huge topic

FraG-TurD
24-11-2005, 05:43 AM
lol wizard always stiring the shit.
I will read all his replies when im a bit more sober.
But so far my first comments are "what the fuck does he know he been playing source for a couple of months"
More comment s to follow hehehehe

SubbY
24-11-2005, 05:52 AM
a lol-rofl copter for wizard :leb:
http://www.forumspile.com/LOL-ROFL_Copter.gif

rapier
24-11-2005, 06:15 AM
wizard u know the one incident which sparked all this???
it was the map havana (i think) irish if u can remember this .

I killed about two or three and no doubt was left, i crept about the place and jumped onto a picture frame near where the hossies are. I waited and waited, and no doubt ran along to where i was, stoped and dropped gun to change his weapon, i seen his gun dropped just behind the corner, now not only did he sidestep out to where i was (which is an unusual place) he had to aim up also , which he did without coming into my view, one shot and i was dead, flexus and irish were watching through his vision and irish said "thats bollox" flexus said "wh"

SBss
24-11-2005, 07:02 AM
please... please


ban his steam id from all servers
ban his ip from all servers
ban his ip from forum

and if some1 knows him, please, ban him from as many places as possible.

for life

White Widow
24-11-2005, 10:14 AM
wizard please watch every single demo in report a cheat section (as Ph33r has) and then make an informed review...Then people may listen to your comments, tho if you are anything to go by they will always think they know better, even if they have only been playing a few months..
As for the "vendetta" conspiracy theory, why would Ph33r want to ban people that make a donation... he does it for the good of the server, not his pocket.

White Widow
24-11-2005, 10:18 AM
Also the "he cant be cheating because hes a noobish player" is utter bollocks, ask AKY!

(sorry Aky :P)

sumdumgai
24-11-2005, 11:11 AM
Wizard's making a lot of friends here I see :P
The Master Fragger Council of Ninjas has spoken. No doubt has no skillz, he's a noob haxxor. Thus he shall be banned for life.

Fact in mathematical format:

No doubt = noob
noob = plays noobishly
no doubt + haxs = super noob = plays super noobishly
no doubt = haxxor = has no dick
No doubt + haxs = banned 4 life :D
No doubt + bullshit appeal + acting like a dick = stupid-ass noob that likes to take it in the ass

Red Devil 72
24-11-2005, 11:46 AM
lol Wizard you don't know shit about hax, so why are you arguing... every1 agreed to say NoDoubt was hacking, it's so obvious, well except for you. Time to close the thread now, as ph33r said "utter bollocks!"

ThE NaMeLeSs
24-11-2005, 12:04 PM
he is a donater.


he is a donater. and you ban him on that material?


erm...
nobody said to him that he have must to donate
he done it for the community(which he never will see again :P)

and btw wiz

can you say me plz why you editing every post from yourself??? :leb:

p.s. close da thread :D

Wizard
24-11-2005, 01:24 PM
irish man. can i just say you are unbelievable.

i thought we agreed not to speak to each other.

why are you going out of your way to demonise me?

did i say it was motivated by vendetta? are you that spineless you tried to twist everything and then accuse me that "i believe rs is hacking"....did you just ignore everything i said. ph33r didnt appear MAD that i posted a reply...yet you try to even put words in his mouth + lead him on to lines of thought.

let me get one thing clear i said its getting personal in THIS THREAD. and the person who said nodoubt's behaviour here is more of a reason to ban him is absolutely RIGHT. thats what i meant. and that f-turd has a right to be PISSED. this is pro-ban not pre-ban i'm referring to. yeet you try v.hard to make these dramatic absolutes.

irish man, you pulling at strings to hit me when i'm low here and twisting, very snake-like, everything i'm saying to, as i said, demonise me. i just hope admins can see you for what you are here. regardless of how gentle + nice they may think you are and that it *appears* your defending* them from what you are tryign to make out to be a criticism of them* (whic hit is NOT). twisted little individual. really.

i'm saying i believe rs is NOT hacking - but on the suspicions of the demos...from what i saw......he would deserve more scrutiny than nodoubt. do you understand that point? maybe not.

and secondly. was it white widow? an informed review? there are references to the demos in my comments. i mentioned watching them twice over.

i did watch the demo.

i would just please like someone to consider this then. wireframe review right, i do know deek.

on demo5, please. could he not differentiate between the t_phoenix model or the ct model, which are distinctly different when the player came up the ladder and still even shot at him.

those references by irish man are correct, but he had FAR MORE time in comparison to the places he is being accused of to determine that player a Ter Model.

if it was wireframe. if it was enemy name display if whatever. he should have been able to determine.

i'm saying. he is aware of the technical expertise of the admins. (far surpass most servers). he is donated because he enjoys it. and he is quite dim (from his posts). but he can still install+ operate the wallhacking cheat? and still fail to determine the ct in all that time?

on demo6. the part where he goes next to the wall - he is typing. just look at the chat.

and i NEVER said he was banned because of vendetta. i actually SAID from what i read in this post after my initial THREAD about this - its got quite personal. and i wish I NEVER DID SAY ANYTHING. because he has been v.rude to frag-turd + red devil.

ONLY person here who has attempted to twist that has been irish man. my posts remain the same. re-read them and then read what irish man has been attempting. i sincerely not lying. he is twisting that around to wedge and demonise.

and to tr!cky please try to understand i was saying that if you going to JUDGE wallhack on nodoubt (basedo nt hose DEMOS ALONE) and you turn out to be correct then its highely likely that rs should be suspect, based solely on the nature of his movement. im SAYING that neither rs nor this kid i thought were hacking.

may i repeat, i believe frag-turd to be v.tolerant of people who even he has beef with + ph33r (in terms of aky and others). and i think sometimes TOO LENIENT!!! which i have said to frag-turd. infact if this was handled over tspeak. my point of view discussed with f-turd and ..maybe ph33r they woudl have been so gentle + respectful. this would be totally different but due to the spiteful people it is far more sensitive now. because they are attempting to twist this into some kind of attack or something.

just some key issues with demos. thats all.

i been HOPING this guy admits to hacking so i'm WRONG. and then i can gain more understanding.

but there are just fundamental and i think misleading parts of the demos. not on purpose. not because anyone sucks* or is stupid* but couuld otherwise be judged as wallhacking but are not.

demo5. i repeat the point of the ladder on ct sniper tower. all that time. he could not tell.

in places where you say he has been wallhacking. it has been a fraction of time compared to above ^^ that he had to percieve....like i said to operate the wallhack throug t he materials of source maps the way he supposedly did would require great speed and awareness which he does NOT have.

if you notice he doesnt turn his mouse much at all instead uses the straft a lot. because he has it set to low speed. this can be also in favour of determining him a wallhacker. but its just he MOVES his MOUSE WELL SLOW. he cant even throw flashes in sky ffs!

frag-turd please ignore their responses. i hope i made a few things clear. i aint even close to saying it was vendetta ffs. what a horrible word. tarnished on me by irish man.

i'm saying LOL exactly the opposite.... that he has been banned and this THREAD has TURNED INTO a personal + abusive thread. which the other person was right again, highlights that nodoubt is real nasty character and thus i wish i didnt get involved.

at least rapier gave a thoguhtful and constructive reply. irish man is treating this like a case of moral law. but in all your sly little attempts. you are just trying a deformation of my character.

peace. and what i think ph33r is doing is none of your business. i was more heated over those o.*-f.a.gs comments FOR HIM - i actually felt the need to do + say something but refrained frag turd exsplaind some thigns to me. i refrained. i even tried to aDVISE somethings in terms word filters....which was all cool. there are other reasons.

truth be told. maybe if i got a problem with something i dont feel is just i will say something and cause people to get mad and/or feel attacked. but when fragturd has explained my mistakes beforeo ntspeak there has been no sense of bitterness or antyhign i said he corrected yet on th forum its so much easier to be misconstrued as some sort of attack. esp. with those childish characters like nameless, irish man, darkside, who actually go out of their way to influence ph33r and others into a low image of me. which i think they have. i pmd him saying "dont listen to them" got an impersonal reply which he never behaved like that before. since then got a real lackluster relationship.

yeah you right. this post probably makes me lose a lot of friends. but half of it is filled with trying to defend myself from demented people who have REAL VENDETTA with me. is anyone surprised that they have absolutely nothing positive to say + consider about my post + no manners when it comes to disagreeing with me?

can you imagine if we were talking on mic frag-turd + ph33r. and i said what i sai.d then you all went "haha! bs" "trust me you aint seen hacking" i would be FINE. but hten imagine if irish ma nwas tehre and you heardhe sly, snivering little snake like voice going..."hisssssss are you calling all the admins faulty....hahar!...hissssssss!......are you saying it is personal vendetta of admins....OH HOW DARE YOU? IM Not GAY.....hissssssssss!.......(wizard: rs is not a cheat but he has more reason to be scrutinised than nodoubt on base of those dmeos).......hissssssssss!......how dare you saying rs is a cheat.....hisssssss!.....i'm shocked......ph33r should be angry........hissssssssssss!...........i have to swallow some rodents.....*tail wags*."

even those who drastically refute what i said have managed to be mindful + respectful. but those same people...are showing their colours + agenda.

peace.

ThE NaMeLeSs
24-11-2005, 01:40 PM
why you(wiz) have write verytime so long post

and why i never understand what you say???

can you maybe take not so much hard + difficult words

cause its confusing me

and i have to look in my dictonary everytime

and btw

why you do so much spaces in your posts???

i dont do that!!

and btw

when irish and you have said that you arent speaking to + with each other

why he can speak here

he was just replying

like he replys to everyone

so i just want to say

take your shit post more short

ThE NaMeLeSs
24-11-2005, 01:43 PM
can you imagine if we were talking on mic frag-turd + ph33r. and i said what i sai.d then you all went "haha! bs" "trust me you aint seen hacking" i would be FINE. but hten imagine if irish ma nwas tehre and you heardhe sly, snivering little snake like voice going..."hisssssss are you calling all the admins faulty....hahar!...hissssssss!......are you saying it is personal vendetta of admins....OH HOW DARE YOU? IM Not GAY.....hissssssssss!.......(wizard: rs is not a cheat but he has more reason to be scrutinised than nodoubt on base of those dmeos).......hissssssssss!......how dare you saying rs is a cheat.....hisssssss!.....i'm shocked......ph33r should be angry........hissssssssssss!...........i have to swallow some rodents.....*tail wags*."

peace.


dude so im imaging a guy which is drunk and have took a lot of druggs

Wizard
24-11-2005, 01:49 PM
^no imagine. a snake.

sorry about big words + edit cus of typos. but i seee one posts of this character leads people thinking something negative then they make a post which leads more thinking something negative until something i did not intend is suddenyl some deep horrible reason for people to be mad.

how many times frag-turd helped me undertsnad + corrected me on tspeak...for crying out loud the way these people behaving is unbelievable. ph33r not ONCE behaved this disrepectful way on tspeak(not angry i dont think hes angry but irish man tryign to use that word for his devilish little twist so ph33rs mind thinks hes angry)

i sincerely think its cus of people like irish man, nameless, rapier, darkside, and whoever else i cant remmeber that have maneged to proper make me into some kind of rogue problem. yet i discussed +suuggested certain things for the server/forum and have been supported by ph33r + frag-turd in past. can you imagine now if i suggest something..prolly ignore me due to the tension created in this thread. i dont blame them if you trust what these people are twisting it into + have said in past in complaitns forum. esp. in ph33rs case.

SubbY
24-11-2005, 01:52 PM
http://www.forumspile.com/OMFG-Wallhack.jpg

ThE NaMeLeSs
24-11-2005, 01:54 PM
sincerely


is this word really existing???? :4-punch:

ThE NaMeLeSs
24-11-2005, 01:55 PM
Last edited by Wizard : Today at 01:51 PM.

you cant let your fingers away from the "edit button" eh???

Red Devil 72
24-11-2005, 01:55 PM
blah blah blah you don't even know what ur talking about...

Wizard
24-11-2005, 02:00 PM
blah blah blah you don't even know what ur talking about...

yeah thats constructive.

great adminning.

irishman
24-11-2005, 02:01 PM
irish man. can i just say you are unbelievable.

i thought we agreed not to speak to each other.

why are you going out of your way to demonise me?

did i say it was motivated by vendetta? are you that spineless you tried to twist everything and then accuse me that "i believe rs is hacking"....did you just ignore everything i said. ph33r didnt appear MAD that i posted a reply...yet you try to even put words in his mouth + lead him on to lines of thought.

let me get one thing clear i said its getting personal in THIS THREAD. and the person who said nodoubt's behaviour here is more of a reason to ban him is absolutely RIGHT. thats what i meant. and that f-turd has a right to be PISSED. this is pro-ban not pre-ban i'm referring to. yeet you try v.hard to make these dramatic absolutes.

irish man, you pulling at strings to hit me when i'm low here and twisting, very snake-like, everything i'm saying to, as i said, demonise me. i just hope admins can see you for what you are here. regardless of how gentle + nice they may think you are and that it *appears* your defending* them from what you are tryign to make out to be a criticism of them* (whic hit is NOT). twisted little individual. really.

i'm saying i believe rs is NOT hacking - but on the suspicions of the demos...from what i saw......he would deserve more scrutiny than nodoubt. do you understand that point? maybe not.

and secondly. was it white widow? an informed review? there are references to the demos in my comments. i mentioned watching them twice over.

i did watch the demo.

i would just please like someone to consider this then. wireframe review right, i do know deek.

on demo5, please. could he not differentiate between the t_phoenix model or the ct model, which are distinctly different when the player came up the ladder and still even shot at him.

those references by irish man are correct, but he had FAR MORE time in comparison to the places he is being accused of to determine that player a Ter Model.

if it was wireframe. if it was enemy name display if whatever. he should have been able to determine.

i'm saying. he is aware of the technical expertise of the admins. (far surpass most servers). he is donated because he enjoys it. and he is quite dim (from his posts). but he can still install+ operate the wallhacking cheat? and still fail to determine the ct in all that time?

on demo6. the part where he goes next to the wall - he is typing. just look at the chat.

and i NEVER said he was banned because of vendetta. i actually SAID from what i read in this post after my initial THREAD about this - its got quite personal. and i wish I NEVER DID SAY ANYTHING. because he has been v.rude to frag-turd + red devil.

ONLY person here who has attempted to twist that has been irish man. my posts remain the same. re-read them and then read what irish man has been attempting. i sincerely not lying. he is twisting that around to wedge and demonise.

and to tr!cky please try to understand i was saying that if you going to JUDGE wallhack on nodoubt (basedo nt hose DEMOS ALONE) and you turn out to be correct then its highely likely that rs should be suspect, based solely on the nature of his movement. im SAYING that neither rs nor this kid i thought were hacking.

may i repeat, i believe frag-turd to be v.tolerant of people who even he has beef with + ph33r (in terms of aky and others). and i think sometimes TOO LENIENT!!! which i have said to frag-turd. infact if this was handled over tspeak. my point of view discussed with f-turd and ..maybe ph33r they woudl have been so gentle + respectful. this would be totally different but due to the spiteful people it is far more sensitive now. because they are attempting to twist this into some kind of attack or something.

just some key issues with demos. thats all.

i been HOPING this guy admits to hacking so i'm WRONG. and then i can gain more understanding.

but there are just fundamental and i think misleading parts of the demos. not on purpose. not because anyone sucks* or is stupid* but couuld otherwise be judged as wallhacking but are not.

demo5. i repeat the point of the ladder on ct sniper tower. all that time. he could not tell.

in places where you say he has been wallhacking. it has been a fraction of time compared to above ^^ that he had to percieve....like i said to operate the wallhack throug t he materials of source maps the way he supposedly did would require great speed and awareness which he does NOT have.

if you notice he doesnt turn his mouse much at all instead uses the straft a lot. because he has it set to low speed. this can be also in favour of determining him a wallhacker. but its just he MOVES his MOUSE WELL SLOW. he cant even throw flashes in sky ffs!

frag-turd please ignore their responses. i hope i made a few things clear. i aint even close to saying it was vendetta ffs. what a horrible word. tarnished on me by irish man.

i'm saying LOL exactly the opposite.... that he has been banned and this THREAD has TURNED INTO a personal + abusive thread. which the other person was right again, highlights that nodoubt is real nasty character and thus i wish i didnt get involved.

at least rapier gave a thoguhtful and constructive reply. irish man is treating this like a case of moral law. but in all your sly little attempts. you are just trying a deformation of my character.

peace. and what i think ph33r is doing is none of your business. i was more heated over those o.*-f.a.gs comments FOR HIM - i actually felt the need to do + say something but refrained frag turd exsplaind some thigns to me. i refrained. i even tried to aDVISE somethings in terms word filters....which was all cool. there are other reasons.

truth be told. maybe if i got a problem with something i dont feel is just i will say something and cause people to get mad and/or feel attacked. but when fragturd has explained my mistakes beforeo ntspeak there has been no sense of bitterness or antyhign i said he corrected yet on th forum its so much easier to be misconstrued as some sort of attack. esp. with those childish characters like nameless, irish man, darkside, who actually go out of their way to influence ph33r and others into a low image of me. which i think they have. i pmd him saying "dont listen to them" got an impersonal reply which he never behaved like that before. since then got a real lackluster relationship.

yeah you right. this post probably makes me lose a lot of friends. but half of it is filled with trying to defend myself from demented people who have REAL VENDETTA with me. is anyone surprised that they have absolutely nothing positive to say + consider about my post + no manners when it comes to disagreeing with me?

can you imagine if we were talking on mic frag-turd + ph33r. and i said what i sai.d then you all went "haha! bs" "trust me you aint seen hacking" i would be FINE. but hten imagine if irish ma nwas tehre and you heardhe sly, snivering little snake like voice going..."hisssssss are you calling all the admins faulty....hahar!...hissssssss!......are you saying it is personal vendetta of admins....OH HOW DARE YOU? IM Not GAY.....hissssssssss!.......(wizard: rs is not a cheat but he has more reason to be scrutinised than nodoubt on base of those dmeos).......hissssssssss!......how dare you saying rs is a cheat.....hisssssss!.....i'm shocked......ph33r should be angry........hissssssssssss!...........i have to swallow some rodents.....*tail wags*."

even those who drastically refute what i said have managed to be mindful + respectful. but those same people...are showing their colours + agenda.

peace.


Wizard I am not going to stoop to your level of making offensive comments whenever somebody responds to a post of mine and I do not like the reply.

Yes we agreed not to speak to each other which I have honoured, you though have some sort of fascination with me, you have mentioned me directly in several posts on this forum.

So I am not allowed to reply to a post made on this forum even though I am a forum member?

My post was a reply to yours, nowhere in my post did I make any comments that were as offensive as your reply is to me. I replied to the points you made in a logical manner.

You have personally attacked my integrity and I have in the past made posts regarding admins if it justified.

To be honest I can go through your original post and point out the ambiguities in there but I am not going to waste any more of my time on it.

I am damn angry at your implications in the reply especially the last part.

Wizard
24-11-2005, 02:06 PM
^yeah you should be.

a metaphorical representation of exactly what i'm accusing you of.

exactly what you been doing.

couldn't make it any clearer.

the nerve of you to even attempt at acting like some sort of victim after attempting to fill all the admins + the head admins minds with that image of me. to the extremeness of your language "are you saying ...which logically shows you think he is a cheat.....how are you say the admins did it because of vendetta....ph33r should be MAD"

MAYBE you are UNAWARE IRISHMAN....but that type of POST...those type of COMMENTS are going to maek ANYONE defend themselves. wake up. everythign in your post is an extreme, negative and misleading interpretation of what i said. do you + people think that is a coincedence?

i am so relieved you say you wont mention me. but i know your kicking yourself becasue you may miss an opportuinity to turn a civil debate into some kind of attack on character and personal tension.

hiss manifest. peace.

ps. the only direct insult on my post was calling your behaviour childish.

otherwise. everything else is there so otehrs + you understand what you're DOING.

irishman
24-11-2005, 02:19 PM
[QUOTE=Wizard
MAYBE you are UNAWARE IRISHMAN....but that type of POST...those type of COMMENTS are going to maek ANYONE defend themselves. wake up.

i am so relieved you say you wont mention me. but i know your kicking yourself becasue you may miss an opportuinity to turn a civil debate into some kind of attack on character and personal tension.

hiss manifest. peace.

ps. the only direct insult on my post was calling your behaviour childish.

otherwise. everything else is there so otehrs + you understand what you're DOING.[/QUOTE]

Were is the civil debate? How is implying that I am acting like a snake turning people against you a civil debate? How is making personal accusations defending yourself?

irishman
24-11-2005, 02:20 PM
Oh and while you talking about childish comments, what is implying I am a snake? Is that not a child comment?

Wizard
24-11-2005, 02:23 PM
i just not haev the energy for you irishman.

if you want to post extreme + perverse interpretations of what i write. do it.

fact remains. yours was first reply. and is last. and is the most perverse + extreme interpretation of what i said.


if i had this discussion on tspeak with frag-turd + ph33r. would have been civil, gentle, funny even if they called me a brainless, inexperienced twat, bollocks.

but if you were there, just as you are here....look at the PROOF irishman. it would haev been twisted. sorry m8.

you have actually turned thingsi said into the most twisted evil renditions possible. even totally misrepresentating. if you did on tspeak what you did here you would not get away with it - cus you would notice the vibe does not necessitate your behaviour.

i just dont have energy for you. i cant keep typing long passages trying to defend myself and make clear what i said because you have actually gone out of your way to make tension between me and otehrs based on extreme portrayals of my own words. please leave me alone.

hiss is a metaphorical representation. which y oucan call childish. but i call a masterpiece in a metaphorical representation of you. v.clear in illustrating your efforts here.

childish is your vendetta. childish is your need to turn my inquiry and points of view in to some major scrutiny of fm ffs.

good luck. you know whats in your head + heart.

Wizard
24-11-2005, 02:31 PM
how i regret watching those dmeos.

just becasue maybe i thought he is not a cheat. and tried to explain myself in references to the demos.

had such an agressive backlash.

is that possible?

yes it is when people liek irish man are attempting to articulate my opinion for me with their perversion.

peace.

irishman
24-11-2005, 02:33 PM
i just nto haev the energy for you irishman. if you want to influence them then do it.

if you want to post extreme +perverse interpretations of what i write. do it.

fact remains. if you werent an element in this thread no one would be reacting to me in the aggressive way the ydid. yours was first reply. and is last.


if i had thsi discussio non tspeak with frag-turd + ph33r. would have been civil, gentle, funny even if they called me a brainless, inexperienced twit.

but if you were there, jus tas you are here....loook at the PROOF irishman. it would haev been twisted. sorry m8

i just dont have energy for you. i cant keeep typing long passages tryign to defend myself and make clera what i said. please leave me alone.

Why? You seem to think that you have the right to reply with accusations when it is against you but that other people cannot defend themselves.

I notice that this reply does not answer any of my questions.... I will continue to reply to any post on this forum that calls into question my integrity which you have done.

As I have said, I do not and have not, mentioned you in any post until you bring me into those threads.

What you, pheer and Frag-turd discuss is none of my business and to be honest I dont really care. My interest in this thread is your personal attacks on me and the implication that I am some sort of snake who is personally trying to turn the admins against you.

You are the one who made this post regarding me and now you want to walk away and leave it.

I have not and do not discuss you with any member of the forum or the server. I do not care about your relationship with other members of the forum or server, what I do care about is my reputation which you have attacked and impuned.

sumdumgai
24-11-2005, 02:38 PM
Yes Wizard we're all against you.

It's a conspiracy, we're all against you, we're all being turned against you. :P

SubbY
24-11-2005, 02:39 PM
wizard, why dont u use the spam section for ur post?

Wizard
24-11-2005, 02:40 PM
As I have said, I do not and have not, mentioned you in any post until you bring me into those threads.


do you realise what you are saying....

do you even know why we are having this discussion?

because of your replies.

because of the way you reply.

ThE NaMeLeSs
24-11-2005, 02:45 PM
wiz are ya paranoid???

sounds like so :insane: :4-looney: :insane: :4-looney: :insane:

and btw to support irish
i found it bettter when he is saying something/reply to questions

and when he helps me to understand shit post from you and help me with english gramar;)

lot of things i would still do wrong



(*must accuse wizard*)
hmm what was??i was short in thinking


btw FRAGMASTER you should close the thread its going really offtopic
everything is said

now wiz is starting fighting again

irishman
24-11-2005, 02:46 PM
[QUOTE]As I have said, I do not and have not, mentioned you in any post until you bring me into those threads.
QUOTE]

do you realise what you are saying....

do you even know why we are having this discussion?

because of your replies.

because of the way you reply.

You are side stepping the issue as usual, you have implied in your posts that I have tried to influence the admins against you, that I am a snake that is doing this behind your back.

What discussion are we having? I am replying to your posts and you are side stepping the issue. You have made personal attacks on me and in every reply since you have not addressed this.

The only time I speak to Pheer or Frag-turd or any other admin on the server is when playing or responding to posts. Even then it is not about you.

Have a look through every post on this forum and show me where i have made any comment about you except where I am replying to a post of yours where you have mentioned me first.

ThE NaMeLeSs
24-11-2005, 02:47 PM
do you realise what i am saying....

do i even know why we are having this discussion?

because of my replies.

because of the way i reply.

that is right dude thats right
and truth

:4-punch:

Wizard
24-11-2005, 03:03 PM
not even about nodoubt anymore.

thats all i wanted to discuss.

ThE NaMeLeSs
24-11-2005, 03:07 PM
not even about nodoubt anymore.

thats all i wanted to discuss.
there isnt really anything more to discuss
you will never see him more
or hear from him
he will never appeal
or admit that he was cheating/haxing

:delete: :thanks-t:

irishman
24-11-2005, 03:07 PM
not even about nodoubt anymore.

thats all i wanted to discuss.

Thats correct which is what I had done.... again you have made accusations against my integrity and reputation which I value highly, once again you have side stepped the issue.

Wizard
24-11-2005, 03:12 PM
this was the first cheat DEMO reviewed.

some poeple knowi'm skinning, modelling - so i d/led it out of interest. no clue who nodobt was.

if you notice i made an initial thread without seeing the one in this section.

first thing: if i had would hev seen thread in appeal talk. bsaed on nodoutbs comments woudl of probably not replied.

+ based on all the poeple calling him a cheat. i would have probably not rpelied.

second thing: the cheat is just somethign i COULDnot spot and felt so strongly that i coudlnt spot it that what did i do? i made a post...

now though i will NOT. cus i can see i can not spot cheats. and it is just naive for me to make declarations considering on my limited knowledge (lol the first cheat demo i ever seen!)

however my comments on those who attempted to turn my bloody post in to some type of anti-fm admin message. you can read what i said to you.


but truth is, i should HAVE even asked how maybe he is cheting let alone DECLARING him NOT a cheat.

i am not qualified to spot cheats. end of.

rapier
24-11-2005, 03:17 PM
god i have a lot of catching up to do, wizard your like child trying to tell a mechanic how an engine works, have you heard of the term 'raged' wizard?

no doubt used this term more than once, you know who is well known for it? hackers when they go around killing everyone and ruining stats for high ranked players and ruining the game when no admins are on, thus they create anger or rage, now if he was a noob like you say surely he wud not use this term.

I also say leave rs out of this wizard, you do not realise what level of play he was involved in, in the past and how he uses the radar and responses to one blue dot disappearing even when ten are still there. he uses the radar to its fullest, but you i guess are not aware of why he makes some of his movements, others of us are.

so this is why you should leave him out, if you want to debate for or against no doubt you should not have to use rs to boost you points. debate no doubt based on the demos and what people here that you know have said.

Wizard
24-11-2005, 03:21 PM
how he uses the radar and responses to one blue dot disappearing even when ten are still there. he uses the radar to its fullest, but you i guess are not aware of why he makes some of his movements, others of us are.


in my inital post this my comments on HIM!

how exactly he is NOT A CHEAT cus of that very fact. what i said.

thanks for knowledge on "raged".

it jsut turned into a series unfortuante events. i did not realise the implications of my post. but does not deter the efforts of some to manipualte and give it harsh tones.

but in terms of nodoubt read apology. peace.

irishman
24-11-2005, 03:25 PM
All,

I apologies if I am dragging this thread out, but I think based on Wizards comments and accusations against me personally that I deserve a reply.

At the moment though, it would seem that this is not forthcoming.

Apologies again for dragging this thread out.

Fragmaster
24-11-2005, 03:29 PM
Topic closed