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Sage
03-06-2006, 07:59 PM
STEAM_0:1:8173534

wh

http://www.4shared.com/file/1893416/891847c9/porky.html

http://www.4shared.com/file/1893414/671626e5/r_online.html

Sage
03-06-2006, 08:16 PM
http://fragmasters.hlstatsx.com/?mode=playerinfo&player=786

matteh
03-06-2006, 08:20 PM
defo wall hack there, he denied it but now someone has caught him out, good job sage :)

matteh
03-06-2006, 08:27 PM
defo wall hack there, he denied it but now someone has caught him out, good job sage :)

actually no i take that back, there isn't really anything wired going on there ...

Sage
03-06-2006, 08:36 PM
use sv_cheats 1 and mat_wireframe 1

Hacienda
03-06-2006, 09:15 PM
The shot he took from gap in the wall at B looked very dodgy anticipating that the T would run out but he didnt no way you could anticipate that with sound alone, need more tho imo.

can someone tell me how you start a demo with sv_cheats 1 and mat_wireframe 1 already on, rather than missing the first 10 seconds of the clip to enable them :P

ben
03-06-2006, 09:23 PM
shift+F2 gives you demo controls. Load the demo with the speed slider on 0% or push pause. Set sv_cheats 1 and mat_wireframe 1 then carry on.

very first few seconds of the first demo dose look dodgy, not seen the rest yet.

VV :p

Sage
03-06-2006, 09:23 PM
shift+F2 then pause - type sv_cheats 1 and mat_wireframe 1 - then click on resume.

he aims through walls... rofl!

2nd demo is best :)

Bantros
03-06-2006, 09:39 PM
Hahaha, lame

Porky
03-06-2006, 09:46 PM
the 2nd 1, i was talkin on xfire when i was on da boxes in B, n den again when i was in B tunnels.. that shows why i wasnt moving.. n yes i do randomly shoot thru the doors. Lads think what you want, its up to fragmaster to study this "proof". even ghost says theres nothing dodgey about that...

~{Porky}~

ShamonUk
03-06-2006, 09:54 PM
hahaha pwned

Porky
03-06-2006, 09:57 PM
hahaha pwned

If ya say so.

Bantros
03-06-2006, 10:02 PM
And what knowledge does Ghost have?

Porky
03-06-2006, 10:05 PM
Tbh, those demo's are poor, if your going 2 try n get me banned, at least get some good demo's.

P@tm@N
03-06-2006, 10:06 PM
ok, saw the demos and they are not the most convincing of wh. There is one at ct spawn that looks a bit dodgy where he scouts the guy coming from double doors (second demo) but imo, not the most conclusive evidence of wh.

Pat

matteh
03-06-2006, 10:06 PM
And what knowledge does Ghost have?

none what so ever, im sorry master soviet :(

*goes back to corner*

you just dont like me do you? :( well just to let you know, i love you :) and always want to get along :bow:

Bantros
03-06-2006, 10:07 PM
They aren't the best in the world, and if you don't get banned and you ARE cheating, it just means you're going to hide it more carefully now, which is great, but I'm fucking keeping an eye on you.

I've don't even see you play much on the server, but I find it funny that in your match against MIA you didn't play to any where near the level you did last time when the allegations were thrown around

ShamonUk
03-06-2006, 10:10 PM
exactly sov - thats why i've got a massive grin on me face

Porky
03-06-2006, 10:12 PM
Because, as i explained to pat the postman, and also said b4 the match, when i had to keep flickin my net on and off, i was gettin constant loss and choke. having a bad ISP day methinks. but tbh soviet, keep a fuckin eye on me, will just be a incentive 2 play better tbh, and throw these allegations back in your fuckin face.

~{Porky}~

EDIT: mis-type, put "and also said b4 the server" where i meant b4 the match.

Bantros
03-06-2006, 10:14 PM
Doesn't bother me, even if you are cheating I'll piss all over you. Mate

matteh
03-06-2006, 10:16 PM
sorry to say porkey but i just watched the clips again with those console commands on and it looks wierd again.

On the second demo when your going into B tunnels and you have your scope on that guy, walk round the corner then he runs away and you follow him a bit with the scope, but im not getting involved any more :)

Porky
03-06-2006, 10:16 PM
yuh, u will piss all over me. your a extremley skilled player. been playing games alot longer than me.

matteh
03-06-2006, 10:17 PM
Doesn't bother me, even if you are cheating I'll piss all over you. Mate

you piss all over everybody anyway, even if you were against a load of hackers you'd still win, it's the unique "sov_skill" hack :p

Bantros
03-06-2006, 10:17 PM
Thanks, I try. No hard feelings, but you can't expect me not to be wary.

Don't cheat kids

Porky
03-06-2006, 10:17 PM
sorry to say porkey but i just watched the clips again with those console commands on and it looks wierd again.

On the second demo when your going into B tunnels and you have your scope on that guy, walk round the corner then he runs away and you follow him a bit with the scope, but im not getting involved any more :)

follow him abit wiv the scope.. ive watched them demo's and my scope is nowhere near him. i heard some1 running so i stood there. neway, lets leave it for fragmaster to decide shall we.

Porky
03-06-2006, 10:20 PM
oh and when im in the tunnels, b4 i heard him, i was on xfire talking.

Sage
03-06-2006, 10:24 PM
wha about when your aiming through walls - next to the double doors. following your targets through the wall... ffs

Sage
03-06-2006, 10:27 PM
oh and when im in the tunnels, b4 i heard him, i was on xfire talking.

bs! you were following his arse cheek

candyman
03-06-2006, 10:31 PM
At the end of the day guys, who gives 2 fucks if porky hacks? Also the demos dont really show a fat lot, most people get lucky kills and they proably look dodey imho, BUT really is there any point of being fucking sherlock holmes and wasting time recording demos and calling MI6 up trying to solve something. Justice will be done if you kill him ingame, i think the whole "hacker hacker" thing is really faggoty and should just be forgotten about.

It will all be sorted in CS:S not in lameass demos.

Bai2u.:bow: :shuffle:

Bantros
03-06-2006, 10:32 PM
Who the fuck are you Candyman? Fuck off

Hacienda
03-06-2006, 10:33 PM
Thanks ben + sage it had been annoying the shit out of me :P

Have to say if I had a gun to my head and had to say yes or no I'd say yes it's wallhack but could have done with more quality demo's, it's up to the admins now I'm sure they know better than I :P

candyman
03-06-2006, 10:34 PM
wtf? im just saying. crikey.

Sage
03-06-2006, 10:38 PM
we want this server to be a clean, hackfree server :)

Porky
03-06-2006, 10:39 PM
lol candy, yuh ok lads, if you wanna believe i hack, then believe it. if you wonna get me banned from FM, get me banned, coz i cudnt giv 2 shits wat ppl fink tbh. i, and my mates that play CS around my house, know, i dont have any hacks. I don't even no how 2 get them, if any1 cud post me a link i wud be extremely greatful.

~{Porky}~

Porky
03-06-2006, 10:41 PM
Sage, you should've got more better quality demo's to secure my ban, because those demo's show nothing, but then again, they were probly the best demo's you cud get.. coz im not a hacker.. but if you wonna fink i hack, go ahead :)

Sage
03-06-2006, 10:44 PM
i see you aiming through wall = i think you hack

i cant see the problem!

Sage
03-06-2006, 10:46 PM
i cant be bothered - im going out.

Porky
03-06-2006, 10:47 PM
No dont go out please, stay in, have no life, argue wiv me pleasse!!! aim thru the wall? pfft dont all good players do that? :D lol only messing.

~{Porky}~

Porky
03-06-2006, 10:50 PM
I didnt aim thru the wall, i was lookin in that direction coz i was about 2 move in2 the hole in da doors n shoot, n den saw peeps at short A so tried 2 shoot them.. but yeh, if u say i hack then you must be right, cuz ur the "Almighty Sage"...

P@tm@N
03-06-2006, 10:58 PM
At the end of the day guys, who gives 2 fucks if porky hacks? Also the demos dont really show a fat lot, most people get lucky kills and they proably look dodey imho, BUT really is there any point of being fucking sherlock holmes and wasting time recording demos and calling MI6 up trying to solve something. Justice will be done if you kill him ingame, i think the whole "hacker hacker" thing is really faggoty and should just be forgotten about.

It will all be sorted in CS:S not in lameass demos.

Bai2u.:bow: :shuffle:

What are you on about?!
If you have nothing worthwhile saying, fuck off, we don;t need that opinion here. Its a report a cheat menu and, well, its for reporting cheats numbnuts!

Sage
03-06-2006, 11:15 PM
the 2nd 1, i was talkin on xfire when i was on da boxes in B, n den again when i was in B tunnels.. that shows why i wasnt moving.. n yes i do randomly shoot thru the doors. Lads think what you want, its up to fragmaster to study this "proof". even ghost says theres nothing dodgey about that...

~{Porky}~

how can u remember u were on xfire when this demo was made sometime last week?

candyman
03-06-2006, 11:20 PM
What are you on about?!
If you have nothing worthwhile saying, fuck off, we don;t need that opinion here. Its a report a cheat menu and, well, its for reporting cheats numbnuts!

Then tbh, wyh is is posted here seeing as porky doesnt cheat? If your trying to get someone banned, then get conculsive evidence where you can see that someone hacks. Until you get that then i cant see why people should go around accusing others.

Play nice everybody :)
It's only a game afterall =/

Porky
03-06-2006, 11:21 PM
coz i memba that day like it was yesterday. i have a pornographic memory, i mean photographic. oh and btw, its abit fuckin obvious i was on xfire, cuz it was b4 i was bout 2 have a match... so was speakin2 paradox n a few others.

~{Porky}~

dmg7
03-06-2006, 11:47 PM
@ candyman thats the most pathetic post ive ever seen, someone puts their time into catching guys who set out to ruin peoples fun and u sit there and say whats the point? lets play with hackers... wudnt be surprised if u hacked. Fucking fuckwit, if i was an admin id ban u now for saying such a stupid thing, prick.

Xampie
03-06-2006, 11:54 PM
defo wall hack there, he denied it but now someone has caught him out, good job sage :)


actually no i take that back, there isn't really anything wired going on there ...

what u take back and why????

More people on this sever where banned cause of WH porky....
Fragmaster will give his view, but m8... it isnt the first time WH have been caught.. I wish u the best of luck, from here on(on/not on FM)....

rofl, you might turn it off, cause people will be looking at you

dmg7
03-06-2006, 11:58 PM
tbh if he is hacking he wud never do it again anyway.
In my honest opinion i rly dnt no, the demo's arn't conclusive enuff. However there is definately suspicion in my mind over it.

Xampie
04-06-2006, 12:01 AM
what u take back and why????

More people on this sever where banned cause of WH porky....
Fragmaster will give his view, but m8... it isnt the first time WH have been caught.. I wish u the best of luck, from here on(on/not on FM)....

rofl, you might turn it off, cause people will be looking at you

im sry bout the post the thread wasnt refreshed... sry... GHOST
reread the thread

sry FM

Fragmaster
04-06-2006, 12:45 AM
No dont go out please, stay in, have no life, argue wiv me pleasse!!! aim thru the wall? pfft dont all good players do that? :D lol only messing.

~{Porky}~

YOU FUCKING JUST PISSED ME OFF WITH THAT STATEMENT




LOCKED

pending my review.

Fragmaster
04-06-2006, 03:42 AM
RE-OPENED

I have decided on your fate, just waiting for the final confirmation before I give my judgement.

nabby
04-06-2006, 03:46 AM
right

i wud like to say that im fucking happy that u got caught u prick

the comments u have made on this post just emphasise the likely hood that u hack so give it a fuckin rest

now all of u see that i wasnt bullshitting when i sed this cock hax, thta fact that u have tried so much to deny it and get ur random friends to stick up for you who have never posted on the forum b4 is just hilarious

well done for acting like a prick

"send me a link for the hacks" omfg, typical caught hacker comment

ur are a disgrace and of course u give a shit about being banned or u wudnt fucking be posting every 30 secs ur prick

have a nice life

ShamonUk
04-06-2006, 03:56 AM
i hope FM has made the right decision.

just back to candymans posts. what was that about? i agree with dmg - he deserves a ban just for the approval of hacks

Fragmaster
04-06-2006, 04:02 AM
What's with all these pre-comments before a decision has been made.

A decison has not been finalised.

Porky
04-06-2006, 10:01 AM
right

i wud like to say that im fucking happy that u got caught u prick

the comments u have made on this post just emphasise the likely hood that u hack so give it a fuckin rest

now all of u see that i wasnt bullshitting when i sed this cock hax, thta fact that u have tried so much to deny it and get ur random friends to stick up for you who have never posted on the forum b4 is just hilarious

well done for acting like a prick

"send me a link for the hacks" omfg, typical caught hacker comment

ur are a disgrace and of course u give a shit about being banned or u wudnt fucking be posting every 30 secs ur prick

have a nice life

Obviously i care about being fucking banned or i wudnt be posting wud i dumass... listen, i dnt like u, u dnt like me, but lets leave it ingame yeh? no need 2 bring those sorts of comments 2 the forums.

~{Porky}~

The Joy
04-06-2006, 11:50 AM
loving this

especially Porky posting about 10 times every minute! lmfao

Porky
04-06-2006, 12:11 PM
10 times every minute? aint there a thing so you can only post like once every minute or something. but any lets just shh n wait 4 FM's verdict.

~{Porky}~

Beavis
04-06-2006, 12:14 PM
awfull thread :(

dmg7
04-06-2006, 12:20 PM
*vomits* o sorry wrong thread.

Bantros
04-06-2006, 01:04 PM
FM building up the suspence & tension like a true master!

Sage
04-06-2006, 01:13 PM
the comments u have made on this post just emphasise the likely hood that u hack so give it a fuckin rest

and get ur random friends to stick up for you who have never posted on the forum b4 is just hilarious

have a nice life

what i was about to say. funny how candyman turned out to be porky's friend.:4-hit:

nabby
04-06-2006, 01:53 PM
Obviously i care about being fucking banned or i wudnt be posting wud i dumass... listen, i dnt like u, u dnt like me, but lets leave it ingame yeh? no need 2 bring those sorts of comments 2 the forums.

~{Porky}~


lol candy, yuh ok lads, if you wanna believe i hack, then believe it. if you wonna get me banned from FM, get me banned, coz i cudnt giv 2 shits wat ppl fink tbh. i, and my mates that play CS around my house, know, i dont have any hacks. I don't even no how 2 get them, if any1 cud post me a link i wud be extremely greatful.

~{Porky}~

more changing ur story?

HIRED K
04-06-2006, 02:10 PM
Can't say ntgh cause I dont have CSS :D

FraG-TurD
04-06-2006, 02:17 PM
Will review demos tonight, sorry cant be sooner g/f bday.
going out!

irishman
04-06-2006, 03:07 PM
lol candy, yuh ok lads, if you wanna believe i hack, then believe it. if you wonna get me banned from FM, get me banned, coz i cudnt giv 2 shits wat ppl fink tbh. i, and my mates that play CS around my house, know, i dont have any hacks. I don't even no how 2 get them, if any1 cud post me a link i wud be extremely greatful.

~{Porky}~

Nothing really conclusive here, there are some "dodgy" shots yes but what I would like to know, do you have a lan in your house porky? If so have you been ghosting?

Superfly
04-06-2006, 03:38 PM
Those demos don't prove anything. No proof = no ban!

candyman
04-06-2006, 04:03 PM
i hope FM has made the right decision.

just back to candymans posts. what was that about? i agree with dmg - he deserves a ban just for the approval of hacks

I wasnt approving of hacks, ban hackers i say. tbh i dont know what i was going on about last night, a bit loopy night last night. I just dont think that the demos were enough to show him hacking. at the end of the day FM will make the desicion and it will be the right one.

AzTr!cKy^
04-06-2006, 05:28 PM
In my view the demos alone aint enough tbh...sorry Sage im trying not to step on anyones toes here so i'll be carefull!

There is quite a few dodgey moments, i suspected ghosting at 1st as a strong possibility, but im swayed towards a wallhack after the knifing in B tunnels....very strange how your crosshair was looking at the wall almost directly at the T in the tunnel near the boxes...then knowing fullwell you could just run straight in with a knife because he wasnt looking your way...allthough putting myself in his shoes with the sounds and everything its easy to determine he was running towards the stairs, still i wouldnt have gone in with a knife because he could have been moving backwards or still stopped to face my way....the DD shots were a little dodgey but nothing major...ive done plenty worse, there does seem to be abit of following goin on though with the crosshair through the doors..and again when you ran back after the flash was thrown. When you fired at the T just as he came through the double doors whilst you were at B again VERY dodgey as there was the slightest split second there where you could just see the shadow of the T projecting on the wall near CT spawn(about a tenth of the T model body) but he didnt come into full view(in fact you didnt even see the guy at all)...either inhuman reactions or was just random firing eh.

There my view although a tough call in relation to a wall hack with the demos, whatever the decision i'll respect it!

And Porkey i know its hard when your being accused so if you turn out to be inocent please dont take a vendetta against me fro this post...im just giving an experiance view from the time ive been playing CS.

Wizard
04-06-2006, 05:48 PM
There is quite a few dodgey moments, i suspected ghosting at 1st as a strong possibility, but im swayed towards a wallhack after the knifing in B tunnels....very strange how your crosshair was looking at the wall almost directly at the T in the tunnel near the boxes...


When you fired at the T just as he came through the double doors whilst you were at B again VERY dodgey as there was the slightest split second there where you could just see the shadow of the T projecting on the wall near CT spawn(about a tenth of the T model body)


the EXACT events you have described have been described in priv. m8, and i have let my opinion known regarding them and 1 or 2 more.

trust me people in DETAIL those events have been looked at, with slow motion etc.

respect @ the method of catching a cheat here people have no idea.

surprised no one has actually commented on those moments till now. i saw them straight away and are extremely suspect with wireframe on OR off. no one stands at that angle looking into the wall with their scope ON then rolls through weapons as he bursts out knowing the nemy is back turned....but i shall remain quiet.

those events are 100% leaning towards something.

however, there is also the problem of shortage of these type of events.

will wait for the expert decision of FT.

and final judgement of the head.

respect.

peace.

Porky
04-06-2006, 05:49 PM
yeh i understand, and yes, that shot when i was in B, i saw the something, (must of been shadow) so i shot... n missed teribly...
"And Porkey i know its hard when your being accused so if you turn out to be inocent please dont take a vendetta against me fro this post...im just giving an experiance view from the time ive been playing CS."
of course not mate, i appreciate you taking your time to post your views. oh and btw its Porky, not Porkey :D

~{Porky}~

Sage
04-06-2006, 05:51 PM
respect az!

i have noticed there are certain walls/substances that cant be see through whilst using mat_wireframe 1

like that wall in B, but who stops there with scout (scope mode) facing the wall/nme

Porky
04-06-2006, 06:00 PM
respect az!

i have noticed there are certain walls/substances that cant be see through whilst using mat_wireframe 1

like that wall in B, but who stops there with scout (scope mode) facing the wall/nme

was spkin on xfire.

AzTr!cKy^
04-06-2006, 06:04 PM
Sorry lol PORKY =P
id only just watched the demos when i posted that, so it was still fresh in my mind...allthough just to clear up an error...the shadow wasnt on the wall it was on the floor then the CT sprayed his ass off after Porky fired at thin air but wouldnt have been if the T hadnt of stopped due to the CT running out.

i'll leave matters in the hands of the people whos job it is as im not experianced in banning people for whatever reasons, i like to play the game and get on with it and in all honesty never been great at making demos =D

I am impressed at Fragamasters communitys determination to keep our servers clean and fun to play on....THE BEST ive ever been on in relation to banning hackers bug abusers ETC which is why ive taken more of an intrest in giving my views on the demos that come in (little off-topic apologies)

KaOS
04-06-2006, 07:22 PM
I WATCHED THE DEMO WITH AND WITHOUT WIREFRAME AND CONFIRMED THAT HE HAD A WALLHACK RUNNING.

Demo One was short but concise to the point.

His first bullet (was not spamming) with the scout at double doors hit the target. He even corrected his aim during his aim prior to his first shot. The crosshair first moves to the right than moved millimeters towards the left, slight movement upwards - BANG with his FIRST SHOT and hits the target.

How the hell did he managed that, he knew the position and traced and corrected his aim before firing his first shot. He did not even spam the doors.


Can you explain that


Porky... good luck because when ph33r goes for his 4 weeks holiday soon. I will ban you, even if he says your not banned. MUHAHHAAa

Szerian
04-06-2006, 08:07 PM
I think there is some wallhack going on.

Explain l8r going out

matteh
04-06-2006, 08:21 PM
what u take back and why????

More people on this sever where banned cause of WH porky....
Fragmaster will give his view, but m8... it isnt the first time WH have been caught.. I wish u the best of luck, from here on(on/not on FM)....

rofl, you might turn it off, cause people will be looking at you

i watched it and posted about it, then watched it again and again then decided no cant be hacks, then i used sv_cheats 1 and that other command on it, then i changed my opinion again and saw that yes wall hack was there :)

sorry for confusion

Fate
04-06-2006, 08:49 PM
haha porky!

you should know! SHOCKING but i kind of knew before with my " contacts " hehe

Goodbye & Goodluck


Porky = No Skillage NOOB

Fragmaster
04-06-2006, 09:09 PM
I WATCHED THE DEMO WITH AND WITHOUT WIREFRAME AND CONFIRMED THAT HE HAD A WALLHACK RUNNING.

Demo One was short but concise to the point.

His first bullet (was not spamming) with the scout at double doors hit the target. He even corrected his aim during his aim prior to his first shot. The crosshair first moves to the right than moved millimeters towards the left, slight movement upwards - BANG with his FIRST SHOT and hits the target.

How the hell did he managed that, he knew the position and traced and corrected his aim before firing his first shot. He did not even spam the doors.


Can you explain that


Porky... good luck because when ph33r goes for his 4 weeks holiday soon. I will ban you, even if he says your not banned. MUHAHHAAa


Please explain demo1 as highlighted by Chaos.

Porky
04-06-2006, 09:32 PM
haha porky!

you should know! SHOCKING but i kind of knew before with my " contacts " hehe

Goodbye & Goodluck


Porky = No Skillage NOOB

Fate, add me on xfire, we do a 1 on 1, i will demo myself 2 prove im not hacking. n i will pwn the fuckin shit out of you noob.

Porky
04-06-2006, 09:35 PM
I dont "aim" it up on him. I am randomly shooting in2 the door, as this has happened plenty of times 2 me, i wil be at doors n i will be shot thru the door so i thought i will shoot thru the door, anyways, can you please tell me where i aim it up on 2 him, i actually aimed at about just above where i thought the wall wud be? did i hit him? really? didnt no that. anyway, chaos you can ban me all you fuckin like. i no ive done nothing rong, my m8s who play css round my house no i dont do nething rong, so tahts all i care about.

~{Porky}~

Porky
04-06-2006, 09:39 PM
Sorry double post, please delete.

Fragmaster
04-06-2006, 10:00 PM
You keep double posting :)

Fragmaster
04-06-2006, 10:02 PM
I dont "aim" it up on him. I am randomly shooting in2 the door, as this has happened plenty of times 2 me, i wil be at doors n i will be shot thru the door so i thought i will shoot thru the door, anyways, can you please tell me where i aim it up on 2 him, i actually aimed at about just above where i thought the wall wud be? did i hit him? really? didnt no that. anyway, chaos you can ban me all you fuckin like. i no ive done nothing rong, my m8s who play css round my house no i dont do nething rong, so tahts all i care about.

~{Porky}~

You corrected your aim, for the first shot.

Read the red words, carefully.

irishman
04-06-2006, 10:29 PM
Fate, add me on xfire, we do a 1 on 1, i will demo myself 2 prove im not hacking. n i will pwn the fuckin shit out of you noob.

Porky, you are really not doing yourself any favours by making comments like these.

If you truly have nothing to hide then you should be able to explain all of the actions in the demos by doing this the admins will then be able to make a decision quicker.

Sage
04-06-2006, 10:32 PM
your friends? ROFL!

http://fragmasters.hlstatsx.com/?mode=playerinfo&player=2529

Wizard
04-06-2006, 10:39 PM
I dont "aim" it up on him. I am randomly shooting in2 the door, as this has happened plenty of times 2 me,

~{Porky}~


my friend for someone who randomly shoots through doors you spend an awful lot of time just..looking at the door.

when a player turns on wireframe 1 it is when it becomes apparent that there is no enemy thus you dont even shoot.

yet without wireframe, you are simply staring at a door?

that is not random shooting, that is something else.

tbh this is the worst answer you could have gave; and what your response was regarding this very event was anticipitated my friend - you shot yourself there.

ThE NaMeLeSs
04-06-2006, 10:43 PM
your friends? ROFL!

http://fragmasters.hlstatsx.com/?mode=playerinfo&player=2529sorry i dont understand the joke :/

nabby
04-06-2006, 10:44 PM
pwned

i think the joke is that they only came on after the accusation of the mia match

fishy?

rapier
04-06-2006, 11:01 PM
let me see what all the fuss is about ...downloading demoes :)

Porky
04-06-2006, 11:20 PM
right i really cba 2 xplain in detail coz i g2g, but here goes, i was stood at the door shootin at where i thought the wall was. im not sure what you mean by "corrected your aim" but i think your reffering 2 my first shot when i shot thru the door, n then rasied my aim n shot again? im not sure if i hit the bloke, but i shot n then moved my cursor n shot again, hoping for a kill. but based on these demo's please can you give your verdict FM because this is turning in2 a spam and flame porky section.

~{Porky}~

Fate
04-06-2006, 11:22 PM
well this COULD turn into a " vK Break Down "

dmg7
04-06-2006, 11:33 PM
no offense porky but you just dnt do that, for one you had a scout so why would you even think of shooting DD anyway unless you think you can hs them?? but then to correct your aim is silly or dodgy if i ever spam the doors and you watch me i will shoot the same spot a gd few times to check for sure, i wnt shoot then move then shoot cause i no thats gna do bugger all unless i hs them or get lucky with low hp, which is alot more unlikely than hitting them a few times in the same spot.

rapier
04-06-2006, 11:35 PM
me post private section :)

Fragmaster
05-06-2006, 12:04 AM
right i really cba 2 xplain in detail coz i g2g, but here goes, i was stood at the door shootin at where i thought the wall was. im not sure what you mean by "corrected your aim" but i think your reffering 2 my first shot when i shot thru the door, n then rasied my aim n shot again? im not sure if i hit the bloke, but i shot n then moved my cursor n shot again, hoping for a kill. but based on these demo's please can you give your verdict FM because this is turning in2 a spam and flame porky section.

~{Porky}~

Nope, I will state again and you better give a clear and concise answer.

You "corrected" your "first" shot


That means the first shot, "prior" to firing was adjusted.

dmg7
05-06-2006, 12:32 AM
aaah i jus tlooked back at demo, and i understand now, gd stuff well spotted.

Wizard
05-06-2006, 01:33 AM
even on demo2 youre staring at door but you dont actually fire a bullet

turn on wireframe - no enemy to fire at.

yet if you randomly shoot why would u have a good 4 to 5 seconds jsut staring at the door with scope on.

The Joy
05-06-2006, 01:43 AM
good point, well thought out there wiz

SubbY
05-06-2006, 01:54 AM
ban

Fragmaster
05-06-2006, 02:04 AM
ban

Easy mate, all things will come at a good time, if I do ban him it will be on all servers including any future servers aswell. I am waiting for him to answer my questions.

nabby
05-06-2006, 02:19 AM
hes thinking of more excuses

Wizard
05-06-2006, 03:18 AM
video coming

Dr.Gonzo
05-06-2006, 03:18 AM
I feel partially responsible for all of this and having viewed the demos as well as played against Porky in the first MIA debacle I feel I just need to comment.

First of all I've played with Porky a good while. We were up for trial together with MIA months ago. Porky gave me loads of tips on how to play the game and they put me in good stead. Porky fucked up getting in the clan with a few stupid comments to try and impress some people he knew... A move that has left a lot of ill feeling with him and large sections of MIA. Not me though.

Porky has trundled along being a player of average skill for some time. But he has been practicing a lot. I watched him ont he server a couple of days before first MIA match and he had improved... slightly.

Then the match came along with MIA and Porky was suddenly god-like. I mean unreal. Headshots coming round corners, always knew where we were. He was gunning down three players a round and this was just warming up.

We couldn't play for one reason or another, but everyone there knew it was bullshit. I told Porky I was pissed... But what happened, happened. I know why he did it, to show us once and for all. I even said "What you do on your server is up to you - but don't expect a rematch after this bullshit".

Porky left, panicking that we thought we'd demoed him (we had but nothing conclusive) and several of his clan members even said to myself and Shamon they suspected he was hacking for that game. Porky then came on teamspeak asking if we had a demo and that he wasn't a hacker. Kept saying he had screenies to prove it - whatever the fuck that meant.

I wanted to leave it. Fuck it, he's just a kid. He did something foolish. We fucked them over in the rematch anyway - when Porky was mysteriously poor for some reason.

But I did say what you do on your server Porky and this is not your server. These demos look to me that you were up to the same tricks and I totally respect the opinion of Chaos, Wizard and the other experienced players in their assessments of what's going on in them. Chaos especially has a good eye for these things. You can't verify exactly how you knew to do what you did... Let's face it, because there is only one answer.

Anyway, I think the ban will be forthcoming based on this evidence and think that it could have been avoided... It's a shame Porky because I don't believe you're a bad lad, just misguided in some of the things you do. That's all I can say in your defence, which we know is no defence when it comes to hacking.

I know you won't admit it - hackers never do until much later down the line. If somehow you get lucky and FM feels there is not enough evidence here you better not do it again because you will be scrutinised up the ass.

Wizard
05-06-2006, 03:20 AM
Flash:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mgSKHOtb-24"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mgSKHOtb-24

wmv DL: http://files.filefront.com/porkyWMV/.../fileinfo.html (http://files.filefront.com/porkyWMV/;5114960;;/fileinfo.html)

detective wizardoni in the flesh

im thining about taking this film to the cannes film festival



Fragmaster's Edit:
Nice video, but where is my credit for telling about it.

nabby
05-06-2006, 03:38 AM
that vid fooking cracks me up

Fragmaster
05-06-2006, 03:40 AM
video removed - stored not deleted.

Awaiting Porky's reply's first.

Wizard
05-06-2006, 03:41 AM
understood.

porky you gotta be real my boy...this is your chance.

Kayz
05-06-2006, 04:03 AM
haahahha that video KILLED IT MAN WIZARD!! lol we should do videos like this for all bans, esp for regulars who get caught!

http://64.176.80.225/images/BadPiggy.jpg

Sage
05-06-2006, 05:42 AM
HAHA that was soo funny. @ 2/3AM I was literally ROFL! suprised i didnt wake any1 up!


classic. :D

Porky
05-06-2006, 08:37 AM
Fuck it, im gna come clean, when i was in B tunnels, i was being told where he was on TS, but wat i can tell you is that i wasnt wall hacking, the shot at double doors which fragmasters is reffering to when i moved my aim, im not sure.. i just moved it up before i shot, but im gna come clean, if i get baned 4 it, at least its off my chest, in dat 1st MIA match i was wall hacking, i cudnt give 2 shits who hears this. i just so badly wanted 2 win. but i wasnt hacking on FM... heh, ive said it you happy?

~{Porky}~

Porky
05-06-2006, 08:39 AM
oh and also, i owe all MIA members a appology and i owe black mamba a appology 4 being a prick 2 him and not coming clean.
Sorry MIA guys, especially you Castro...
Sorry Black Mamba

will be back on l8er, please dnt turn this in2 spam, just give your thoughts and feelings. i will check back here at hopefully about 4.30pm.

~{Porky}~

Bantros
05-06-2006, 09:05 AM
Do you see the problem there is now? How can people believe you are not wall hacking on Fragmasters when you just admitted to hacking in the MIA match?

At least you have admitted and apologised but...

dmg7
05-06-2006, 09:25 AM
well at least you have admitted you did, although i think MIA and VK alrdy new about the match, As for the demo's if its not wall hack @ B is it ghosting? if it is thats a ban anyway, but well done for oppologising and coming clean althoguh u took your time and you ended up getting very aggressive with ppl in the post when they were in essence not at all in the wrong.

Porky
05-06-2006, 09:30 AM
yeh i agree, i deserve a ban.. but i no no1 wil ever trust me nemore, but this is the truth, i have deleted em all off my comp. i didnt actually no how 2 get them until a friend came 2 mine and downloaded them when i was on the toilet n then he sed here, use these n you will beat MIA... sorry 4 dissapointin u all, i dissapointed myself too. :(

~{Porky}~

Porky
05-06-2006, 09:37 AM
I'm not bothered about being banned of FM (well i am, but i admitted it so i definitely will), i just hope i can still be friends wiv u all :)

~{Porky}~

Crazy Diamond
05-06-2006, 09:47 AM
You may be a nice person Porky but I fucking hate a cheater ! You are the lowest of the low.

The Joy
05-06-2006, 10:03 AM
porky, i know ur a slimey turd, you've tried to fuck fuck most of MIA over (including me) and we fucked you over harder, and now you've tried to fuck FM over, and i hope you get what you deserve

irishman
05-06-2006, 10:58 AM
Thought there was a bit of ghosting going on, I would like to know who it was as well.

SubbY
05-06-2006, 11:07 AM
yeh i agree, i deserve a ban.. but i no no1 wil ever trust me nemore, but this is the truth, i have deleted em all off my comp. i didnt actually no how 2 get them until a friend came 2 mine and downloaded them when i was on the toilet n then he sed here, use these n you will beat MIA... sorry 4 dissapointin u all, i dissapointed myself too. :(

~{Porky}~

blah! another classic line, lol:4-hit:

DarkSide
05-06-2006, 11:40 AM
Go sit in the corner

The Joy
05-06-2006, 11:41 AM
as i remember, ghosting using TS or xfire is a bannable offence on FM too? 2counts of cheating i say

DarkSide
05-06-2006, 11:44 AM
as i remember, ghosting using TS or xfire is a bannable offence on FM too? 2counts of cheating i say

Yeah it is FM wrote it many many times you can't join FM without reading it :)

Fragmaster
05-06-2006, 12:28 PM
Flash: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mgSKHOtb-24

wmv DL: http://files.filefront.com/porkyWMV/.../fileinfo.html (http://files.filefront.com/porkyWMV/;5114960;;/fileinfo.html)

detective wizardoni in the flesh

im thining about taking this film to the cannes film festival



Fragmaster's Edit:
Nice video, but where is my credit for telling you about it.


Re-attached Wizard's post. I think we got a comedian in Fragmasters Community, you joker.

Hacienda
05-06-2006, 12:38 PM
LMFAO at wizards post.

Always thought you was an ok guy pork so sorry to say this but your still lying, you cant adjust your aim like you did on that shot by ghosting nor anticipate the shot from the gap in the wall from B down to DD.

nabby
05-06-2006, 01:14 PM
oh and also, i owe all MIA members a appology and i owe black mamba a appology 4 being a prick 2 him and not coming clean.
Sorry MIA guys, especially you Castro...
Sorry Black Mamba

will be back on l8er, please dnt turn this in2 spam, just give your thoughts and feelings. i will check back here at hopefully about 4.30pm.

~{Porky}~

:)

least i know im right

DarkSide
05-06-2006, 01:32 PM
lol :D i start liking the appeal section, every regular who hacks and we havent detected yet please join porky :)

The Joy
05-06-2006, 01:37 PM
LMFAO!

POKRY'S TELLING PORKEEEEEEEZ!

funniest css vid ive seen so far! LMFAO!

u bloody legend wiz

Wizard
05-06-2006, 01:37 PM
well he apologised.

but porky ban is coming.

you can still hopefully come on forum and be friends only if you aint rude about it.

but hacking my friend...too low check my comments on video.

and although u deleted the hacks off your computer we wont really know - but you can guarantee youve been detected by VAC and will face a perm-loss of your steam account in a few months. regardless of removing them now.

as for demo1, some people couldnt get wireframe in time etc etc - and demo2 is self-explanatory imo.

respect @ yo uadmitting. but shame u went there m8 really is.

ps. joy <3 @ donation ;DDD

The Joy
05-06-2006, 01:40 PM
come to think of it ... shouldn't someone report this to ED? after all vK do participate in it ...

Fragmaster
05-06-2006, 01:44 PM
I will soon be giving my official statement.

I guess this old timer (me) still can spot, miniturised movements and adjustments with a split second.

Also a big THANKYOU goes out to Sage -- you have been rewarded with 20k

Wizard
05-06-2006, 01:51 PM
ph33r the adminning comments @ the videeo site refer to you genius!

the point of the video where the hack is concrete was shown to me by the wisdom of ph33r - so shcoked i had to video it.

and to name and shame a hacker is a must as the yconsciously seek to ruin the game for others. they are criminals they take away the value of skill we pursue and destroy the fun for us, they CHOOSE to do this as well. everyone of them has a choice.

respect@ ph33rs wisdom.

Fragmaster
05-06-2006, 01:59 PM
ph33r the adminning comments @ the videeo site refer to you genius!

the point of the video where the hack is concrete was shown to me by the wisdom of ph33r - so shcoked i had to video it.

and to name and shame a hacker is a must as the yconsciously seek to ruin the game for others. they are criminals they take away the value of skill we pursue and destroy the fun for us, they CHOOSE to do this as well. everyone of them has a choice.

respect@ ph33rs wisdom.

NO NO NO

max respect goes to Sage - Remember that!

Wizard
05-06-2006, 02:04 PM
sage pwns trus me

we are from the same detective department.

he does the questioning, the interrogation >;DDD and gathers the evidence!

i just look cool and make the videos lololol altho sage is prolly coooler than me in real life

W.D @ Sage

rapier
05-06-2006, 02:05 PM
great vid :) however funny enough it wasnt that shot which made me suspect :) anyway good stuff all and thank you for what it is worth for owning up porky, hope u learn a lesson, that steamid will be perm banned i imagine.

Well done sage, In future when you are recording demoes record loads, Catching a wallhacker takes time so do many demoes.

Wizard
05-06-2006, 02:08 PM
great vid :) however funny enough it wasnt that shot which made me suspect :) anyway good stuff all and thank you for what it is worth for owning up porky, hope u learn a lesson, that steamid will be perm banned i imagine.
.


i think 4 me after the headman showed me how blatant the wh it was - its the piece which endorsed all the wh suspicion of demo2 + at the asme time most difficult to see on demo 1 cus take plce in first few seconds.

ShamonUk
05-06-2006, 03:02 PM
i never got a chance to say how funny i found wiz's video last night when it was temp. stored. my god, i was pissing myself laughing.

re: porky coming clean - good on you. it's just a shame you had to be so hostile before hand and get your mates to try and back you up.

well done everyone for the time you put into getting evidence. it was an issue fairly important to me, after i was subjected to it during the original MIA match, and had no real evidence to backup what i saw.

makes me respect the community even more!

Sage
05-06-2006, 04:10 PM
when i find im recording more than actually playing! i just gotta remember this thread and it would be all worth it.

porky - 1. i speced u for ages that day. 2. i had made quite a lot of demos but those were the best i had. 3. your still lying

pheer, nice! i thought that was super short but great work spotting that! :) ty for the bucks!:) wiz, i love u man!

Sage
05-06-2006, 04:16 PM
btw was sandyman/candyman ghosting :D

Dr.Gonzo
05-06-2006, 04:23 PM
Whatver people might say about the whole thing, I'll say that there is no hard feelings from me Porky. I know why you did what you did and to a certain degree can understand your motives... This isn't the same as condoning them though.

You did lie to me during the match, and afterwards on TeamSpeak - but such bullshit comes with the territory of hacking. I think there's still an element of bullshit there now if I'm honest with you. Wizard's video shows you adjusting for a headshot through a door. Not sure how ghosting would help you achieve that.

So a ban is coming, along with a VAC ban to boot, so get a new Steam ID if you want to keep playing and be thankful that it's that fucking easy to get a fresh start because it shouldn't be.

Boys - Don't be too harsh on Porky. He's a young lad. Obviously ban, but keep the abuse down to a minimum.

A valuable lesson here for all wannabe hackers - If it looks like bullshit, feels like bullshit... It IS fucking bullshit.

Sage
05-06-2006, 04:27 PM
porky - 1. i speced u for ages that day. 2. i had made quite a lot of demos but those were the best i had. 3. your still lying

btw these demos were recorded b4 the vk - MIA pcws

ThE NaMeLeSs
05-06-2006, 04:42 PM
im dissapointed pork...

ps. fun vid wiz :P

Sage
05-06-2006, 04:53 PM
After seeing the genius of ph33r spotting WH I feel so much more confident that hackers will get caught

Porky
05-06-2006, 05:16 PM
okay lads, im glad i came clean. big weight off my back. could we now close this thread please FM, btw, sage those demo's were taken on the night of the MIA match. neway lads, was enjoyable playin on FM while it lasted.

~{Porky}~

Porky
05-06-2006, 05:19 PM
btw, i probly shudnt find it funny, but i found dat vid fuckin class. i was in stitches 4 ages. good job i guess :\

~{Porky}~

Porky
05-06-2006, 05:21 PM
oh and btw ive definitely learnt a lesson from this.

~{Porky}~

Sage
05-06-2006, 05:23 PM
the demos were created 29/5.

you still havent admitted using wh porky. every1 knows!

Sage
05-06-2006, 05:30 PM
ever1 would forgive...

Porky
05-06-2006, 05:33 PM
the demos were created 29/5.

you still havent admitted using wh porky. every1 knows!

so that means i have admitted it... cuz every1 nos..
put just 2 clear up, i here by admit it.

~{Porky}~

Sage
05-06-2006, 05:34 PM
wh on FM ?

Porky
05-06-2006, 05:36 PM
yuh

~{Porky}~

Porky
05-06-2006, 05:38 PM
im banned already so no point lying :D

~{Porky}~

The Joy
05-06-2006, 05:41 PM
come to fragmasters

get pwned for life

Porky
05-06-2006, 05:43 PM
come to fragmasters

get pwned for life

wdf you mean by this?????

Yakkkkkk
05-06-2006, 05:43 PM
rofl, Wiz that video is mad m8, also good to finally hear your real voice not the squeaky girly one you use on ts ;)

That video say it all, I have often said on ts how hard it must be for admins to tell a good / lucky shot from a wh, but that adjust and almost hs is about as blatant as i can imagine! well spotted sage and the rest of the FM anti hack squad.

DarkSide
05-06-2006, 05:44 PM
LMAO Porky having a laugh after he got caught cheating :D

Sage
05-06-2006, 05:46 PM
respect! porky.
i hope when you get a new id you'll play the game how its meant to be played :)

Porky
05-06-2006, 05:46 PM
well no point bein grumps about it is there. i was stupid 2 fink i wud get away wiv it.. but heh, fuck it cant change the past, we all do thing we regret.

~{Porky}~

Porky
05-06-2006, 05:48 PM
respect! porky.
i hope when you get a new id you'll play the game how its meant to be played :)

Sage, i've always played properly except 4 that match and that 1 day on FM, but fuck it no point thinkin of the past, now is the present and i can happily say i feel happy, i no im banned n that lol, but im happy wiv myself 4 admitting it :\

~{Porky}~

nabby
05-06-2006, 05:52 PM
gj, well done for admitting

Porky
05-06-2006, 05:55 PM
well i wud much rather come clean. black mamba i once again appologise 2 u for the shit i gave u, and i also gotta give u a big appology FM, but i no u have probly done shit in the past that you have regretted, i no this is no excuse but i just wanted to beat MIA so bad, dno wat was going thru my mind, but tbh, i found it more fun, losing, then i wud've done if i wud've won by cheating.

~{Porky}~

Dr.Gonzo
05-06-2006, 06:01 PM
well i wud much rather come clean. black mamba i once again appologise 2 u for the shit i gave u, and i also gotta give u a big appology FM, but i no u have probly done shit in the past that you have regretted, i no this is no excuse but i just wanted to beat MIA so bad, dno wat was going thru my mind, but tbh, i found it more fun, losing, then i wud've done if i wud've won by cheating.

~{Porky}~


Something I believe an old bearded Cuban told you...

Anyway mate, you've took it on the chin. An athlete caught using steroids. But I honestly believe you won't make the mistake again.

I'll swing by the VK server for a game sometime Pork...

And kudos to all involved in spotting this. Still laughing about Wiz's video. Wiz mate - that is absolute fucking legend.

Wizard
05-06-2006, 06:01 PM
^^not your normal attitude

respect @ admitting.

but with new steamid - hope u play properly - got a strong feeling u will.

gl in future.

props @ sage for startin recording/etc
props @ ph33r for spottin major awh

Porky
05-06-2006, 06:02 PM
yeh hope 2 c u castro :D,
yeh darkside, im gna leave this 2 blow over abit til i get my new steam id. plus i some how gotta get a new 1? abit of help wud be nice lads :D, how do i get 1 and how much they cost? :D

~{Porky}~

Sage
05-06-2006, 06:10 PM
i hope to get better at recording :D but this is a small victory. there are others - hopefully after seeing this thead they will stop!

nabby
05-06-2006, 06:20 PM
:D

Master Qui
05-06-2006, 06:21 PM
porky, i sell them on ebay, u can have one for ?10 , let me know mate

[email protected]

Fragmaster
05-06-2006, 06:33 PM
[vK?] [P]orky?
STEAM_0:1:8173534

Counter-Strike Source
Counter-Strike 1.6
Day of Defeat Source

BANNED MANUALLY - All games under Fragmasters Community.

Congratulations, on your ban within Fragmasters community, even thou I believe your still lying and have no crediability in your statements. You were using wallhack, that is a bannable offence and by stating that you were ghosting is also a bannable offence. I see no difference between wallhacking and ghosting.

Thankyou, for having the courage to tell the partial truth. You have taken the right steps toward your redemption, rather than telling porkies and making it worse for yourself. For that, you will be always welcomed back under a new steam account, if you decided but will be watched closely.

** ANY NEW ACCOUNTS CREATED WITHIN A MONTH WILL BE NUKED/BANNED **

Did you know that VAC bans are normally activated after a month, as they do not ban straight away. This is to give cheaters a false sense of security, as some cheat site may think that it is undetected by VAC. You maybe VAC banned within 1-2 months time.

The worse thing is that a regular member within our community was caught hacking. This makes me upset and angry.

Official thanks goes out to Sage, and hope to see great improvements in your future demos takings.


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