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    Actually the rumours are of 70% to 100% faster cards.

    Edit: I came across a nice video which explains allot about the features DX11 will be bringing and shows the difference.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Security View Post
    Actually the rumours are of 70% to 100% faster cards.

    Edit: I came across a nice video which explains allot about the features DX11 will be bringing and shows the difference.
    that only makes it worst. 50% is optimistic but possibly achievable at the very max, but would require a total rebuild of chips architecture etc etc

    70%-100% are you serious, haha i laugh in your face if you believe that, i'd looooove to see the shitty graphs they make to try and prove this. it would take almost 2 years to double the capacity of the current gen of GFX cards.

    there dreaming and you are tooo.

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    The thing is that I know the "suggested" specs which make over 50% easily possible and knowing the superiority of DX11 vs. DX10 100% will be possible, there is also a fact that ATI has something up there sleeve but what this major change is isn't sure.

    Just take a look at the video in my second to last post.


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    Ati's Slogan for the dx11, "you wont belive your eyes."

    i loled tbh. although it could be the truth reading through what there apperntly capable of.

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    What you have got to remember is that ATi have serious experience in tessalation. Its been around since the Xenos and HD2xxx series. We are now on the HD5xxx series and they have had a lot of time to perfect it. DX11 has really pushed tesallation to the forefront.

    I also believe that Nvidias thinking in adding real estate to the chips space and boosting performance that way will be a serious downfall for them. Its gonna get FAR too expensive for them to compete with ATi in the performace/buck ratio and i have to say that only the top 10% of gamers will go for the extreme end of equipment.

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    I have a whole range of new information!

    AMD is going to use the number 7 in the coming Evergreen series and is going to setup a clear image between low, mid and high end and are going to link the numbering of there CPU's, GPU's and chipsets so the consumer knows when he is buying a high end graphics card and a linked high end CPU.

    GPU naming examples:
    Radeon 7-9X0
    Radeon 7-7X0
    Radeon 7-6X0
    Radeon 7-3X0
    Radeon 7-1X0
    Where X can be a 5, 3 and 1 (higher is better).

    So when you buy for example a 950 CPU with a 7-900 chipset and a 7-9X0 video card you know it's all high end.

    AMD is also going to distribute there own cards world wide (BBA cards), AMD did this in a limited amount of countries before... so now we can buy a card directly from ATI instead of for example Sapphire (still possible tho).

    Apparently the new Radeon tag line will be "Visual Clarity".


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    I just heard something that hasn't even spread on the internet, nVidia is going to take there card in a limited production without any more testing inbetween.
    If this goes correctly nVidia will have there DX11 cards out in October or November and if it goes wrong they will lose roughly 50 million dollar.
    Here is some detailed info about this.

    And a thanks to Maggot for saving post #15 as I made a mistake concerning an Edit button instead of the Quote button.
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    I can see Nvidia are geting desperate.

    ATi cards are already out with reviewers so they can bug test drivers etc. I can see Nvidia having the same catastrope that they had with Vista as they did with their GT300s. NO driver support whatsoever

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    Update: AMD will host its Evergreen’s official launch on aircraft carrier U.S.S. Hornet moored in Alameda, Calif.
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    What does launching a graphics card on an aircraft carrier achieve? All these PR stunts are truly lost on me :-s

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    Yes it is a PR stunt and ATI did it in the past (launching the R360 on Alcatraz) and prolly tries to create the biggest hype for these new cards they can create to push sales... if it works for them then why not?


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    Yeah if it works, why not, but I dont see how it does work?! Who cares where a gpu is launched as long as it is in the shops?

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    Baha do you know the meaning of marketing?

    So when these gpu's come on market a lot will be like " Oh yea i saw them on that event and stuff" which ofc also people will tell other people so the product gets more and more known to other people which would lead to "hey dude my gfx blown up" - " np, i saw some kickass gfx on that event" and so on and so on..

    also its simply "spectacular" and such things stay longer in mind then an advertsing on tv.
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    watched them videos of dem crazy textures polygon things and stuff, some improvements but meh, can't help but think its just hype. like when i walk over to my fish they swim to the surface expecting me to feed them and then i just walk away, i am ATI and you are the (stupid disappointed ) fish

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    nVidia starts another renaming campaign (3rd time I believe).
    Back in June 2008, nVidia launched GeForce GTX 200 series and claimed that the time of confusing naming conventions is up - future products will be much simpler and easy to understand. Well, somebody in nVidia didn't got that memo because the company continued with frankly, completely stupid naming and renaming policies.
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    nVidia Presents Support for Windows 7 DirectX Compute
    In an internal presentation perhaps to its primary clients, NVIDIA presented support for Windows 7 DirectX Compute. For a welcome change, the slides show no signs of NVIDIA's own CUDA technology, and in turn promise huge performance gains when a Windows 7 machine is aided with an NVIDIA graphics processor. The gains NVIDIA predicts range anywhere between 2 times to 20 times over plain CPU-driven processing, focusing on media-related applications such as Cyberlink PowerDirector, MotionDSP vReveal, and of course Badaboom.

    DirectX Compute API will be natively built into Windows 7. It supports both existing DirectX 10 compliant GPUs, and future DirectX 11 ones. Along with pledging full support for it, NVIDIA also explains how the GPU becomes an increasingly important component of the PC, being "central to the Windows 7 experience". As a bonus tidbit, it adds that on Windows 7 the SLI multi-GPU technology works 10% faster than on Windows XP.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Security View Post
    nVidia starts another renaming campaign (3rd time I believe).


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    rofl more renaming, i had to explain to a guy at work why he shouldn't get the 8800gt he saw in the second hand store, this only makes it harder, life ain't fare, i like nvidia gfx cards, but this is taking the piss now, need to clear everything out and just start all over again, i reckon they'll suffer because of this, at least ati has not renamed the same gfx card 4 times

    on the second "nVidia Presents Support for Windows 7 DirectX Compute"

    i couldn't help but laugh at that, good job putting up support for dx11 but omfg, 500% speed increase in smooth hd video, wtf does that mean, and why the fuck could nvidia think that they could increase whatever there increasing by 500% oh and 500% increase on new life like physical effects. omg why do they lie.
    it just another marketing thing to sucker people into buying there stuff. well they ain't getting any of my money for at least 3 years so suck on that.


    i know it probably isn't good marketing but isn't giving it to us straight, with proper real-time graphical benchmarks that out perform the competition fairly, so much better than shoddy figures, bent graphs and colourful power points. i almost feel embarrassed to own a graphics card bought from a company that uses these lies to sell cards to unsuspecting people

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    AMD DX11 Cypress is Radeon HD 5870 & HD 5850


    AMD has informed their partners that their upcoming DX11 Cypress cards will be known as Radeon HD 5800 series. Cypress XT is Radeon HD 5870 while Cypress PRO is Radeon HD 5850. The key features of these DX11 cards are :

    • 1GB GDDR5 memory
    • ATI Eyefinity technology with support for up to three displays
    • ATI Stream technology,
    • Designed for DirectCompute 5.0 and OpenCL
    • Accelerated Video Transcoding (AVT)
    • Compliant with DirectX® 11 and earlier revisions
    • Supports OpenGL 3.1
    • ATI CrossFireX™ multi-GPU support for highly scalable performance6
    • ATI Avivo™ HD video and display technology
    • Dynamic power management with ATI PowerPlay™ technology
    • DL-DVI, DL-DVI, DisplayPort, HDMI
    • PCI Express® 2.0 support

    The launch will take place in September and retail availability in October, same time as Windows 7 launch. More details later.

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