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[Deek]

Originally Posted by Silk how pathfetic. am a muslim, that dont mean i play as a terrorist and fantercise about blowing none muslims up. Then again, i could say that the skin head character reminds me of a racist thug or BNP/combat 18. But come on, get a grip, this shit aint real. This must be 1 of the funniest things i have heard, since being part of this community.

the reason it reminds u of combat 18 cuz the slogan it has on its head is the Combat 18 slogan.."blood and honor"

it also has white pride on its back

and another thing as for not wanting u to play as islamic terrorists..

the original cs had Irish Republic Army as terrorists..

[The Specialist]

There's always going to be people taking something too far. Whats that got to do with anything? I hate people like you - people that claim everything should be censored in the off chance some psychotic idiot or easily-influenced kid could see comething and copy what has been seen.

The point you are trying to make is that you claim kids will play CS and see these skins and then emulate what they have seen in the playground. Counter Strike is a 16+ rated game, and though this isn't an official law-rated one (a BBFC one), it still has a clear marking on the case. Its up to the parents to decide whether or not their child is mature enough to handle this type of game, and if not make sure he/she doesn't have access to it.

I for one will not allow my child (when I have a child) to play GTA, because its an 18 rated game for a reason. This doesn't mean I want it banned - when he/she's old enough to handle this type of game I will allow him/her access to these types of games.

I know it has nothing to do with the skins, but your argument is based on the fact that it is inciting racism in easily-influenced and young people, even though the case recommends people under the age of 16 shouldn't play the game. And if you claim that it upsets muslims, Chinese, Africans, whoever, I think the replies by people who are actually Muslim prove that this is not the case.

[The Joy]

people from any ethnic origin can be offended by racial discrimination, the matter of the fact is, that the person who orignally took offence at this was german, and (without speaking for him) he knows probably more than all of us about things like this, that make people do stupid things. I personally take offence at racial discrimination, and im white-english. People take offence at swearing no matter their race? so why should it matter for racism? the fact is it doesnt!

[aky]

Originally Posted by Silk if any of you have noticed, on the map dust the buildings resemble Moques? which as most of you are aware is a place where muslims worship. i dont see steam changing the look of the building on behalf of muslims? Then again, do i see any muslims complaining? next some1 will be asking for turbin skins.

Yeah the terrorists plant and seem to blow their own place of worship up.. thats really fucked.

also i wouldnt mind turban skins.

theres too many things to pick out on games and some1 said u play the game to kill obviously if u dont like it then u dont play it?..

[The Joy]

its not the matter of what the game itself implies, but what the new 'white power world wide' implies! sheesh!

[shabba]

Thing is about this tho, is that people who arent white may take offence to this, as it insinuating that no people other that WASPs (White Angalo Saxon Protestants) are welcome to play there, and as such may cause rasist offence, even if it is unintentional. I myself am a WASP, but I see how it could easily be offensive to some, and others much the opposite.

Do you have a problem with all none whites? Because that WOULD be racist.

[Kayz]

Firstly i am not really bothered to argue with some people here as i can go and have a long debate, its like discussing whether or not 'Power Rangers' are a suitable programme for kids etc etc, i'll make my points below:

1. Strangely two people have made their first ever post since becoming a member inside of this topic,

2. Fragmaster didnt make those skins, he just applied them to the server,

3. Get real, there are many terrorists out there! Tamil Rigers, Militia, IRA etc etc the list goes on, so i really wouldnt be bothered how the terrorists look like or what colour or slogan they have, its been taken from a real life prospective and has been implemented into a game to give it that little edge of realism,

4. Some of you complaining too much are being childish, im sure steam knows what their doing, ffs they created the CT's and the Terrorist, if you dont like how a terrorist looks or does then start a petition and maybe request for teletubbie or power rangers skins to replace the current Terrorist skins. I'm sure those who are moaning about this would love the idea!

5. If you dont like the skins, then tuff, i can make copies of my little brother's games which are Pokemon, and Teletubbies that would keep you occupied!


I Cease here, really dont see the point of debating about petty stuff like skins!! ITS A GAME!!

[rapier]

kays im not even going to bother going into the subject of what u said right now but i will say this.
Dont patronise us, you probably are younger than most here, by mentioning teletubbies you are not even taking some people points seriously, is this a joke to you? Are the feelings of racism a joke to you?
If not then stop making a joke out of it or leave the conversation if you cant make logical points. What is racism? If a person feelings are affected will you laugh? just becuase it doesn't affect your feelings does not mean it does not affect others i myself am unaffected however i recognise the fact that others may be. Therefore i can sympathise and understand. and change if necassary. You are ignorant on this topic when you fail to see your own misunderstanding.

[TheFink]

Congrats Kays on making 5 of the most utterly irrelevant points to a debate that I think I've ever read. For someone with an avatar of a gyrating purple hippo to lecture others on being childish is a bit much to bear.

Specialist - I'm sorry if you hate people like me, Steve and Frosty, but I suggest you actually try and understand the points we are trying to make before assuming that we are pro-censorship Mary Whitehouse-style nutters.

I'm disappointed in how rude people have been to us for raising what I feel are legitimate concerns, especially on such an important topic. The message seems to be "If you don't like it, then f### off, we don't care". Noted.

[SBss]

i was too lazy to read the whole thread, so my reply is only to last post (TheFink)

Im guessing someone here already said that you take it way too sireously... This comunity was based on game enjoinment, And when some fucker comes up critisizing the looks of skins or work of admins (i think thats where this thread comes from) he should really shut up or fuck off to another server.

Some of us are in 20th some in 30th some may be 10, but server was always fun for all, and everyone could was heared when they had a suggestion or complaint. But the worst people can do is to come here and try to defend thier critisizing attitude!

I think you trying to change things too hard, just let it go, let admin work to be done by admins, and see what will heppened at the end. And if u find skins ingame offensive then the word fuck should also be offensive for u...

dont like it - leave

Thats just my oppinion, and i repeat my reply based only on the last reply i read here and previous threads