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[White Widow]

mmmmMMm naked girls

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[dr stealth]

Originally Posted by Fragmaster I will rename the model to Hell's Angels (Bikers)... how about that?

as an ex-affiliate of the southern vikings MC dunedin i take exception to that!

and as a smelly 'ol punk rocker, i demand a T skin with green mo-hawk, cherry red doc martins and an old ripped leather jacket with an anarchy symbol on the back! haha!!

stealth

[rapier]

Originally Posted by White Widow Most of this statement i find offensive rude and abusive, when u tell people to shut the fuck up and call people runts, or children just because they disagree wth a point of veiw that u also dont agree with, but argue for all the same.

rude and abusive yes becuase i was annoyed at someones post at the time but offensive? if u are offended so easily i apologise, you know how frosty felt

[White Widow]

so wat, no naked girls then??

[Kayz]

Originally Posted by SBss i was too lazy to read the whole thread, so my reply is only to last post (TheFink) Im guessing someone here already said that you take it way too sireously... This comunity was based on game enjoinment, And when some fucker comes up critisizing the looks of skins or work of admins (i think thats where this thread comes from) he should really shut up or fuck off to another server. Some of us are in 20th some in 30th some may be 10, but server was always fun for all, and everyone could was heared when they had a suggestion or complaint. But the worst people can do is to come here and try to defend thier critisizing attitude! I think you trying to change things too hard, just let it go, let admin work to be done by admins, and see what will heppened at the end. And if u find skins ingame offensive then the word fuck should also be offensive for u... dont like it - leave Thats just my oppinion, and i repeat my reply based only on the last reply i read here and previous threads

Originally Posted by White Widow This is not a debate, its just some idiots moaning that counterstrike is not politically correct. LOL The whole concept of counterstrike is that law enforcement agencies do battle against nutters. The skin in no way alters this games original genre. And while SB may not have read your previous lame posts (i dont blame him, i did and they were pretty pointless) he has made many more contributions to this forum and community. Thats why he was made admin, now he will donate more of his own time into keeping the fragmasters community for those that appreciate it. At the end of the day it is your right not to play on the server. But i think that u should give up playing counterstrike as u cannot justify one sort of terrorist over another type.

Originally Posted by The Specialist I apologise for that, I dont hate you, you make a good argument. I take offence to racial discrimintation also. About half the people I work with are racist. When a Pakistani started working at my place a few months ago, there were comments of "Why doesn't that paki f*** off back to his own country!" and other comments. I hate that, I really do, because the guys a nice bloke, but no one talks to him because of his skin colour. I still disagree with what you are trying to say though. You are claiming that the Skinhead skin incites racism on the server, yet there are 4 different default skin choices of various terrorist groups based around the world, including western-hating terrorist groups. These are racist. More so in fact, they goto the extremes of blowing anything christian up, and they have done, particularly innocents. Does that mean they should be banned? Kayz made the point of having Power Ranger skins, but instead, we'll just change them to blue and red skins to make you happy. The fact is, Counter-Strike is about CT's trying to stop an extreme Terrorist group from planting a bomb/keeping the hostages etc. the skinhead skin is just another terrorism group.

Bravo Well said all ^^



Well Rapier, im not a kid nor am childish, im very old you see, one thing ive learnt was not to judge anybody. In my last post i may of joked about telletubbies because people were making silly comments about the skins which i really couldnt bare. But you have made valid points as i may of undermind how and what a person feels and must take a look from another prospective which i totally agree with you, i may not be offended but other may.

Originally Posted by rapier Are the feelings of racism a joke to you?

nope its certainly not a joke, but i dont understand why very emotional people who do feel racism inside of a game even play it?? There are countless games out there which can be seen as racism,

Originally Posted by rapier If a person feelings are affected will you laugh?

Well sorry to say, if somebody does starts crying after playing a game then i just might laugh my head of, i mean you say: (i reitterate again) "If a person feelings are affected will you laugh?" lol again at that i just dont understand why the hell they even play the game?? Their killing people 24/7, blood flying! dead bodies lying around! now what will effect more? Dead people, killing and blood? or a players skin? I mean a naked person wont even have that affect! (unless ofcourse if its me lol)

Originally Posted by rapier They piss some people off. Now would frgamaster prefer people leaving the server (be it very few) for an unknown reason or a known one.

People leaving the server because how the characters look? I mean, all i have to say is "lol" its just a game!


To summarise some parts of this topic,

1. Like Silk had said, the game has mosques and arabic writing all over the place, now how would you like it if Fragmaster stopped having the maps Dust, i mean i yet havent seen a map with a church in it?

2. Also i think this thing about the skins is very childish!! I say it again! The world is full of all sorts of terrorists, you have the Tamil Tigers! The Militia! Hindu Sepratists! the IRA etc etc, we could have white terrorist, people with long beards and turbins! Black White and Yellow Terrorists now who would complain?? maybe some of you dont even know what a terrorist is or even who they are! that is why some people are complaining over something really childish and petty honestly.

But again i agree with you Rapier on one point, i didnt take other peoples thoughts into consideration before, well i think ive explained that above on why emotional and sensetive people even play CS hence i made the joke about pokemon and power rangers as well as telletubbies.



P.S: Notice i havent even sworn once

[rapier]

"People leaving the server because how the characters look? I mean, all i have to say is "lol" its just a game"


point here is would pheer like to know why people left or not. So do you agree that they should voice there concerns then or not? (be they petty or otherwise)

[Kayz]

your deffo right people need to raise concerns, like you have said and understood but some people take it too far, good thing were having this discussion as we can express ourself very well. But dont you think leaving a server just because of skins is too damn severe?? it makes me wonder why those people even play cs if they get all emotional and sensetive over a skin. But what youve said is valid,

[rapier]

to be honest yes i do think it is a bit of a severe decision but i will stand up for them if they want to leave becuase of it since they feel so deeply about it.

[The Specialist]

I recommend quitting Counter-Strike and moving into a secluded house where they can't be contacted by anyone, in the off chance they might see a skinhead or even a single mother. Anyone that gets offended by something as trivial as this seriously needs to take a good look in the mirror, because there are bigger things than this to worry about in the world; certainly bigger than an optional skin for an online game.